DX10 Hardware at E3?

[KimB]

Riiiight.

All that I'm saying is that since there is basically no way for IHV's to make changes to their hardware before Vista ships, so I find it extremely unlikely that Microsoft would change the required hardware specs.

 

[Cypher]

The NDAs involved render the possible validity of your comment as completely irrelevant.

It hardly does. The NDAs would have little to do with the situation. If they changed part of the spec that required a hardware change, it'd probably delay the hardware by several months. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the features in D3D10 were locked back in late '03 or sometime in 2004, if not, sooner.

The word "availability" is not governed by facts.

You just made my head explode. Congratulations.

 

[Nom De Guerre]

You just made my head explode. Congratulations.

I assume this is sarcasm instead of not knowing what I meant by my sentence you quoted. I'll address the latter whichever it really is.

This thread is not about whether we'll see "DX10" hardware at E3, behind closed doors as that ET article seem to confirm as fact near the beginning, or not.

This thread really is about whether "DX10" hardware is in a state of the industry (3D and Vista and nothing else) where both the IHV(s) and Microsoft deem them appropriate to be shown at E3, or not.

Thus my statement. The possible fact that "DX10" hardware may or may not already be "available" now (according to the IHVs, internally) has very little to do with whether or not such hardwares is available for "behind-closed-doors" demonstrations at E3.

Most of what I have posted in this thread has more to do with Microsoft than the IHVs especially when we know when Vista will not appear (like, now at E3) as opposed to when it is scheduled to (more than half a year away from now/E3). In case that is not clear.

Apologies if you took that sentence of mine to be condescending.

 

[dizietsma]

I have to admit to having difficulty following some of the posts in this thread.

My own view is that, at least for nvidia, normally new gpu's appear first in leaked drivers about 3-6 months before you actually see the chip in the flesh. So far I am not aware of any drivers mentioning G80. Therefore either the leaks have been bottled ( likely ? ) or they are not quite available yet.

Perhaps it is more likely tweaked r58x and G7x chips that the behind closed door demo's are being shown on ?

 

[Geo]

And E3 is now over. So, was there something there or not? Somebody blink in semaphore or something!

 

[KimB]

Well, usually when something is shown behind closed doors, some aspect of it leaks out. I don't think we've yet heard a peep about the G80.

 

[Megadrive1988]

I also wonder about S3's next-gen Direct3D GPU codename "Destination Films".