Destiny 2

[DrJay24]

My clan basically dismantled...so I had no one to play the current nightfall with.

I tried to solo that b*tch but the lack of health regen really hurts my titan

I could manage to get to the boss with 2min left....so no chance of finishing him.

Anyone looking for a new clan member, a cool Titan ???

Join Dread Naught! Ok, you might not want to. My buddy, my kid and his two friends.

 

[Rangers]

Still rocking the manannan in pvp IB...is rly fun to take out Mida players

But yesterday I was destroyed by a hunter with origin story...he defended C...I tried to take him out 5 times, no chance with my antiope

I feel like Antiope is overrated. it doesn't have the range of an AR because it kicks too much. and it's TTK isn't realistically much faster IIRC. Certainly not to give up the amount of effective range to an AR that it does.

I love how it sounds, though.

I have Origin Story, I think of it as Uriels without HCR, and thus inferior.

Some recent reddit testing concluded HCR isn't that effective though, instead that flinch in general is just really strong. So by that Origins is probably stronger than I've given it credit vs Uriels.

I like how Story looks/feels better than Uriels easily. A lot of times I'll run tone Patrol/Origin as sort of a different Mida/Uriels loadout. It's funny for whatever reason with the change to static perks of D2 I dont find myself reading up on gun stats too much, or even looking at the few user changeable perks. Probably should do more of that.

I think that's one disappointment to me about D2 PVP, there's too much gap between the ultimate meta (mida/Uriels) and everything else. At least in D1 I could run pulses and scouts outside the hand cannon meta, and do well with them. Non meta loadouts feel weaker in d2 and that saps variety.

BTW Destiny reddit has turned to completely complaining. Destiny community is so predictable with these mood swings

I do feel like with apparently lesser sales and less captivating PVP and endgame, we could be on the verge of a massive exodus in much faster time than D1. It's probably already in progress.

To me a lot is riding on the PC release to rejuvenate D2's fate, if it's gonna happen...it needs some kind of spark. I'll be interested to see how much PC juices Twitch viewership which plays a lot into this. I thought it was pretty amazing for a console game to do as well as Destiny on twitch, it was pretty unheard of. So now that it'll be on PC, I am wondering of it will take off on twitch a lot.

 

[Rangers]

My clan basically dismantled...so I had no one to play the current nightfall with.

I tried to solo that b*tch but the lack of health regen really hurts my titan

I could manage to get to the boss with 2min left....so no chance of finishing him.

Anyone looking for a new clan member, a cool Titan ???

I'm pretty sure you're not on Xbox, but if you are XBox LFG is great for nightfall. It's incredibly active and simple to use, you just find a post and click "I'm interested" and wait for your probably invite.
It's a little more dicey for raid because the quality of player seems somewhat lower. But even for raid its pretty much all I use anymore. for one thing I think it's utterly decimated Xbox population on any LFG websites, so it's almost hard to find LFg on Xbox on websites anymore seems like.

It's easy enough that for raid I deal with the lower quality of player simply by ditching groups at the first sign they're shit and trying again. But for something like Nightfall it's perfect. It is essentially in game LFG and very close to matchmaking ease.

It's amazing how bad Bungie screwed up Guided Games as well. What a disaster.

I only feel a little bit for LFG websites that are now becoming redundant on Xbox. Like a blockbuster video with netflix oncoming. Oh well they still have PS4 for now. The one positive of LFG websites is the caliber of player and ability to sift a good group seems a bit higher, but it's rapidly becoming not enough.

 

[Billy Idol]

Thanks guys, I'll talk to my friends and ask them if they rly wanna quit D2. And if so, I am happy to join you guys (probably within my EU time zone?!)

 

[Billy Idol]

Finally got the last exotic, I think I have them all now

The last one was of course the one I wanted most: Credt of Alpha Lupi, heals a bit if you put down the barricade.

Love it! I rly like that it is not subclass specific.

I tried the NF solo again...got to the last boss with 4min left...but got shredded

Destiny 2 endgame stuff solo is harder than all Dark Souls combined!!

 

[Rangers]

I finally managed to up my recovery to 9 if I want to, but I typically rock 8.

It seems that resilience is worthless?!?

Not in Crucible. Seems the reddit scientists decided you want a minimum of 4 resilience, after that it's kinda personal preference.

BTW I have gotten 3 Agenda 5's (pule rifle) now on Nessus since starting grinding and no seven-six-five. There's definitely not smart loot. Which is good I guess, I want things to be hard. Frustrating though.

Was watching Aztecross play D1 PVP video yesterday and dang, D1 PVP was just better. He was talking about the crispy feel and getting 4 supers in a match (remember that?) Oh well I'll keep playing D2 just because it's new.

Destiny 2 endgame stuff solo is harder than all Dark Souls combined!!

Yeah, a time limit pretty much makes solo-ing the NF a non starter. Just another way D2 isn't as good as D1...

 

[RenegadeRocks]

My motivation to play is over. My main, my warlock, sits there abandoned.
Grinded like a madman for the IB set for my Titan, couldn't get the helm though. Got all the weapons from IB many times over.

Dont feel like doing Nightfalls, dont see the point. Dont do the raid as Raid weapons armour have no special perk. Every non raid weapon seems better in the end.

went back to Destiny 1 and played a Heroic strike, the Archin Priest. It was still difficult and that is why special weapons mattered in D1. In D2 everything is easy and weapons have no real meaning. The chase for weapons feels pointless.

I dont play with the Mida, Uriels, or origin story. I tried using them since yesterday, yes the ARs are really good, have had them snce forever, don't feel they change my game much or make me go Wow !
Even my post sounds bored. I feel there is no challenge in the game to use any special weapon in PvE. The raid is communication challenge, not a gun challenge. It feels tedious and boring.
I want to play cos I want to play Destiny, but I dont feel the game once I boot it up. My warlock is 305, My Titan is 304. I do not have Tonnes of exotics because I keep getting the ones I already have. But I dont miss th eones I dont have cos none of them make much of a difference anyways.

The game has become mundane and weird. DOnt hate the tokens or anyhting, but there is no reason to play, cos there is no reason to get those missing stuff I dont have, cos there is nothing in the game where I will feel better if I have those things I do not have now.

 

[RenegadeRocks]

I finally managed to up my recovery to 9 if I want to, but I typically rock 8.

It seems that resilience is worthless?!?

I had 10 resilience on my Titan for the IB. I outlasted all fights mostly. Resilience works.

 

[Rangers]

Maybe I'm just in a bad mood today but i think I'm about through with this game. It's so much worse than Destiny 1.

The design of the public events is terrible. Numerous frustrating deaths are likely to occur because the design is just throw ten million enemies at you. They really could have toned down the enemy spam. Same thing on patrol, the enemies are so numerous as to be annoying. And it all doesn't matter because you pretty much get the same thing for failing or not failing AFAIK.

And why am I playing at this point? To get some legendary Mida scouts mostly. But oh yeah, crucible sucks anyway...there's no reason to raid. I'm just sharding almost all loot I get, or moving it to the vault as possible infusion fodder which is a big chore. Hunter has been nerfed to hell, which makes me hate Bungie. There's no reason to do flashpoints hardly now that I'm 305 and have most gear at a high level. There's no loot I'm really after (except those scouts).

I tried to think "why did D1's endgame seem so much busier". Well, I could think of a few things, grimoire (for me, that was huge), but even ghost shells/calcified fragments etc. And D1 crucible was liquid fun so it gave things a solid base. Lets not forgot random weapon perks.

This game's design is just terrible. Is Luke Smith responsible? I vote give Datto the reigns of this franchise...

 

[Billy Idol]

I read up that resilience 10 increases your health from 186 to 201 or so in crucible...that doesn't seem much.

As long as you have a bit resilience to get over the threshold for getting 3 shotted...their is imo no point.

Recovery seems to make a strong difference.

 

[Billy Idol]

I finally got the last two missing pieces: better devils and blue shift.

I have all Titan exotics.

No access to Raid gear or Trials of the Nine gear

 

[Billy Idol]

My solution to Destiny 2 endgame is easy: copy from the best.

The best endgame imo has Diablo 3.

Translate this to Destiny 2 would be something like:

You start a strike at a certain powerlevel, finish it and you get a pass for the strike with higher powerlevel. The more time you have left, the higher is the powerlevel of the pass you get. Powerlevel is open end, so there will be a point where even the best players in the world fail.

The challenge then is how far you get up im powerlevel...like in Diablo 3, where only the best players with the best gear and builds and strategy succeed in the greater rifts.

I put in countless hours into Diablo 3 due to this endgame formula.

Destiny could be the same imo.

 

[Billy Idol]

I am curious if you guys use specific combos, setups and builds that offer great synergy. In particular of course for the Titan, as this is my class , but others are also appreciated.

The following combo works really well for me and makes the most fun: Synthoceps (increase lunge range of melee, damage increase when surrounded by enemies). Combination with Titan Sentinel subclass, Code of the Protector: the melee ability offers overshield, when getting a kill with it. This is a perfect combo with the Synthoceps. I try to put on mods to reduce my melee ability cooldown as much as possible. While in overshield...melee damage is increased! Again, perfect synergy with the increased lunge range of the Synthos. Every melee kill (not even ability necessary) grants a small part of health back. In combination with a high recovery value, this makes quite a durable hulk. The last very good synergy is with the ult modifier Ward of Dawn: inside the bubble you get a shield and are even more durable, perfect to punch the heck out of everyone and use a close range power weapon such as Hawthorne shotgun to shred...or the Merciless...).

Any other perfect Titan combos with synergies beyond the standard obvious ones the exotic perk offers?

 

[Nisaaru]

Where do you even need a melee and Ward of Dawn build in that game anymore? Crucible? Surely not and in PvE melee and even bubbles feel completely pointless now as the game isn't very localised like even in Strikes or you need the super to damage the boss to make the time in a NF.

 

[Rangers]

I read up that resilience 10 increases your health from 186 to 201 or so in crucible...that doesn't seem much.

As long as you have a bit resilience to get over the threshold for getting 3 shotted...their is imo no point.

Recovery seems to make a strong difference.

That seems to be the thinking.

I believe 4 resilience hits a few thresholds you want to be over (not getting 3 crit 2 body killed by Mida?) so that's why it's recommended.

Recovery seems the hot new thing with D2.

Part of the reason I'm making a Titan, Hunters are at a huge recovery disadvantage. Especially given Foetracer and Knucklehead are pretty much the two best PVP hunter exotics. It mean 5 recovery is your cap for a hunter with exotic armor. Oh, but at least all their supers suck to make up for it. And they dont have any top tier grenades either. And their class ability is by far the worst of the 3 classes.

Absurd.

 

[Rangers]

My solution to Destiny 2 endgame is easy: copy from the best.

The best endgame imo has Diablo 3.

Translate this to Destiny 2 would be something like:

You start a strike at a certain powerlevel, finish it and you get a pass for the strike with higher powerlevel. The more time you have left, the higher is the powerlevel of the pass you get. Powerlevel is open end, so there will be a point where even the best players in the world fail.

The challenge then is how far you get up im powerlevel...like in Diablo 3, where only the best players with the best gear and builds and strategy succeed in the greater rifts.

I put in countless hours into Diablo 3 due to this endgame formula.

Destiny could be the same imo.

Ehh, that sounds pretty terrible to me. I dont get the point in open ended difficulty. I prefer difficulty to be a unchanging yardstick you measure your progress against.

I have no idea what to do for end game, but there needs to be some kind of long term reward you can (slowly) progress towards. Maybe some sort of rank in crucible. In PVE, I dont know, SOMETHING. Like a grimoire score, slow progression to an Armor set, or just, SOMETHING. Maybe you could even slowly get buffs or power increases that make the raid easier and easier. Of course these would take a long time to get...

More RPG basically I guess. Which is apparently what Bungie doesn't want.

It's funny I think the games systems are fubared far worse than D1, but at the end of the day it's still a lot of fun for some reason. I do plan to quit again...anytime now LOL.

Prestige raid seems hard and as always armor is pointless IMO the way Destiny is designed (no chance at easily getting the right stats and perks for PVP on a given armor set). It doesn't give you higher light gear. I will pass at least for now.

 

[Rangers]

FINALLY got the Seven-Six-Five. Just in the knick of time as grinding Nessus is really tiresome. And the chests/resources lockout really maddening, as much for the principal of it as anything.

I remember sharding that for the Mida quest thinking "eh, I'll get it again, easily, many times". How wrong I was.

It's all I hoped. Very effective in crucible and lets me run more non Mida loadouts.

That said there aren't a lot of loadouts that work. Antiope is fun but it just doesn't match an AR at least at scrub skill level. But now I can run Seven/Antiope or Seven/Origin Story. Which is still a somewhat less effective Mida/Uriels I suppose, but hey. It's a lot more effective than Tone Patrol/Origin. And it's different. I really like Origin Story model and I noticed it has rampage perk which is nice.

I also actually realized Bright Dust existed tonight. I literally never knew of it before. AND you can buy neat looking stuff from eververse for it? although it looks like only about ten items that I assume rotate? Pretty cheap too except the ships.

This makes all the Destiny "pay2win" crybabies even more wrong IMO. I mean wow. Also, for dirt cheap (50 dust when I have like 2000) you can buy those rep boosters too, holy smokes. Game changer. I understand they're very helpful in levelling alts.

I have got just by playing one exotic sparrow, ship, and emote so far. The exotic sparrow reloads my guns when I ride which I never noticed before.

I also finally "got" shaders in Destiny 2. I bought a few of the "Hakke History polish" shader with my bright dust and I applied them to everything I had on, guns, ship, sparrow, all armor. so now I am (at least was) all themed correctly and it looks cool.

I am still not quite sure the point of mix and match shaders, except I suppose being microtransaction driven, is there a case where you'd ever run different shaders per gear by choice (AKA, arms one shader, chest another, etc)? Do people do that?

What's next, i start wanting the cool looking armor?

oh, and Skyburners oath. I got that early on but shelved it. Then I saw tonight a video by Mtashed about how great it is in PVE, and he said it was ok in PVP. I unvaulted it, dusted it off, and infused it up (it was 207 heh).

Thing is it's 200 ROF, which is Mida ROF. BUT, with the slug bullets or whatever, it does 52 crit?

I mean holy smokes that seems broken, that's a 4 head shot kill from a Mida ROF? what's the catch? I dont see them in crucible and everything good spread like fire in this game so...it boasts of great handling in the perks ("short stock") which eliminates a common downfall. Could it be bad sights? The thing that ruined Boolean Gemini in D1 despite powerhouse perks and stats? They seem ok...

Is it not really 200 ROF but rather 180 and that's a misprint? That would make more sense Since 200 ROF crit for 44 and 180 ROF crit for 48.. It seems to fire slower than Mida but that could just be sound effects playing with my brain.

About to try it out in crucible I Iguess, see what's up.

 

[Billy Idol]

Skyburner somehow has imo different firerates when aiming down sights or hip fireing...hip fire could be 200 rpm?

 

[Billy Idol]

I am currently trying out a gun I never touched so far: Valakadyn (or something like this).

Beast mode in pve it seems...and if I would hit crits better, good in pvp as well I assume

 

[Billy Idol]

I wish there was a playlist for soloing stuff (to try out builds and test their limits: solo strikes (NF time limit is pure stress, don't like it), where you can choose the specific strike and especially public events, where you can choose again.

Tried testing builds in pubs, but there where so many other players...took only seconds to finish