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Arwin said:
Look forward to impressions. I never played any of these games, and am tempted to give this one a go sometime.
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I would gladly post my impressions if I had the game but I won't until next week. I was in the same situation back in 2004 and I just bought Morrowind because I've read on the cover -Morrowind (Game of the Year Edition)-.

That was the only reason I got into this kind of games. I loved the manual, the atmosphere, etc, on my Xbox and I began reading guides at Gamefaqs.com. Then Oblivion came out and I had lots of fun.

Maybe, some day, I will play a GTA game, for instance. Many years ago it was becoming a very well known game, but I feared I would never like it because there was a controversy about being able to kill women and stuff. I never got over that and I thought the game main's protagonist was a gangsta. It didn't click with my personality, back then, and I never got into it.

However, I liked the new GTA V -the wind turbines look incredible and the lighting looked real, my only criticism would be that you can't spray the fields using a light aircraft or whatever when there are people there, some staff at Rockstar would need a phytosanitary passport- :smile: trailer, and most probably I will give it a try this time.
 
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Arwin said:
Shame to hear MLAA was too much bother for them. It looked stunningly great for Dragon Age 2 and I think the graphical tones of Skyrim are perfectly suited for it.

Warcrow, thanks for that review, was a good read. I didn't read anything about the dynamic questing system that was mentioned by Bethesda recently and I thought really interesting. Is it so transparent that you don't notice it unless you are told? That would be quite impressive in and of itself.
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Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

It's there and I suppose the persuasion, bride and intimidate are viable dialog options, but they're so much less dramatic and that's mainly because of the minimalistic interface.
 
warcrow said:
Oh yes, I don't give out scores. :)
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Ah okay, words say more than cold numbers. :p For those PC gamers worried about the RPG side of the game being simplified because of consoles, you can finally breathe easy. Gamespy scored it with a 100 in their PC review and they say there are a lof of improvements to their RPG formula. Does that mean this game is similar to Morrowind instead of Oblivion, which was a bit simplified?

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/elder-scrolls-v/1212121p1.html

Pros:
Incredible amount of content; world feels alive; more than enough improvements to the Bethesda RPG formula; engaging quests; great new leveling and combat system; did we mention the content?
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warcrow said:
http://eat-games.blogspot.com/2011/11/skyrim-reviewed.html
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That my first impressions are as positive as your experience having played it for a few weeks, is encouraging. I sunk several hundred hours into Oblivion and in my short time with the game it looks as though they've correct the flawed aspects from that game, though I share your disgruntlement about not being able to easily compare items. Grrr.

The environment, including the weather, looks great, but as others have reported, getting up close to some textures or models (the oxen in Riverwood, an early area of the game, is a good example) can result in something less than stellar but it's an open world game and you can't expect the developer to texture everything insanely well.

The game opening is great, but it is a poor tutorial for basic game mechanics, such as equipping items you've picked up unless you've played an Elder Scrolls or other RPG game before. 2 minutes into actual gameplay your cohort yells "use that weapon" with no further prompt of clue being forthcoming. From my Oblivion days I know to press [PS3] Circle and equip the item I've just looted, somebody else may not know this and you're not prompted.

Something I was not expecting, given how much the music score has been praised in many reviews, was the title music being the same score as that in Oblivion, albeit orchestrated differently. Not a complaint, just an observation - I always liked the Oblivion title music.

The lack of class 'walls' feels very odd but it lets you develop the range of skills and abilities you want, rather than what some game designer thinks is appropriate. I like it. Dumbing down? No, opening up.

Patching (a 58mb download) took a slothful 12 minutes this afternoon on a 20mbit DSL connection and I suffered no stuttering, bugs of framerate drops on my EU launch 60Gb PS3 with a 320Gb HDD during my initial play.

Overall - very impressed :)
 
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Has anyone confirmed the issue (or patch) on 360 where when the game is installed on the HDD that textures go missing compared to running off the disk?

I have read of several people having this issue
 
Tap In said:
Has anyone confirmed the issue (or patch) on 360 where when the game is installed on the HDD that textures go missing compared to running off the disk?

I have read of several people having this issue
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I think Bethesda are looking into it, because it's an issue. Perhaps tomorrow's patch fix the problem, because apparently it fixes some "performance issues", apart from other things.

I am not much into rap but this song is actually fun.


By the way, if you are going to have a newborn child -male or girl-, and if you call him/her Dovhakiin Bethesda will dish out some untold riches, albeit they should reveal the prize tomorrow. One of the conditions is that the newborn child shall be born tomorrow; 11-11-11
 
Sigfried1977 said:
Skyrim scored a 90/100 on our site as well.

http://www.4players.de/4players.php...25722/73442/0/The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Skyrim.html

Long-ass read. Also German. Still, out editor in chief is a damn fine writer if I dare say so myself. He's also a detail obsessed role playing game connaisseur of the highest order, so getting a 90/100 grade from him is akin to getting knighted by the Queen.
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Danke for sharing. I have literally scrolled through all the pages just minutes ago, but my first language is not German and I read it trying to understand some words and expressions by the context, to no avail. Anyway, I am so effing jealous of all you who played it, including your chief editor.

A 9 is a great score, especially coming from someone who is an authority and a devotee when it comes to RPG games. I am not a savant on the matter but I have played quite a few of them now and I can appreciate when a RPG is good or not.

Talking of which, the statistical average score of the game is 96 :oops: at Metacritic, and it seems to be increasing with every new review.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/critic-reviews

kagemaru said:
Regarding the texture issue on the 360, Bethesda are aware of it and they can confirm it has nothing to do with installing it to the HDD:



http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.ph...rsion/page__st__40__p__19146329#entry19146329
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That's good news. I wonder how they didn't spot this before. After all they have been developing this game almost 6 years -Oblivion came out in March of 2006-. This resembles me of Polyphony Digital, but that doesn't mean it's bad when PD gave continuous and free support to their fans since the game came out, something seldom happening these days when developers like Capcom create a DLC charging 400 MS points only for some cheats, which makes me remember a more innocent time when we just had to put a button combination to unlock some neat cheats for free. I am getting off-topic now.:p

That being said, thanks Bethesda, I hope the patch fixing the issue is out soon.
 
Cyan said:
A 9 is a great score, especially coming from someone who is an authority and a devotee when it comes to RPG games.
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True, and to put it into perspective, he kicked off a major shit storm in the user comment section of the review when he awarded The Witcher 2 with a "spiteful" 84/100 earlier this year. (not to mention the scandalous 82/100 for Mass Effect 2. That user comment section was truly a sight to behold)
 
According to lens of truth there's no issue with the texture streaming on the Xbox 360.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/skyrim-what-xbox-360-texture-streaming-issue/

Pete Hines tweeted that they don't see any differences when running either off disc or HDD.

https://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/status/134665541033005057

Game runs same off disc vs. HDD. We don't see any differences
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There are quite a few people experiencing this problem and Hines tweeted that it may be due to the copies not being legit, which makes no sense to me. What's the point on adding malicious code for non legit copies, especially when it's Bethesda and they aren't using strong security measures on the PC and consoles?

Also most people who mentioned this have legit copies and Bethesda also said they are looking into it.

I. Don’t. Know. Maybe legit, maybe not. We haven’t seen it. We’ll see what folks say when legit copies are out in release.
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AlStrong said:
Never trust PR. :p
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:p NOWAY. Seriously, that assertion makes perfect sense to me.

Bethesda are finally working on a fix and they explained it in detail. I am thinking about playing the game from the disc meanwhile -I can't bear the sound of that jet engine when you play from the disc on the 360- or better yet, install it to my USB pendrive, if it works.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1258645-texture-scaling-on-360/

Skyrim uses a lot of dynamic streaming systems, including textures. We’ve seen a few reports of certain textures temporarily scaling down on the Xbox 360, and not scaling back up. We have verified that this issue does not occur when playing off the disk and when the game is fully cached (not installed). Skyrim makes heavy use of the Xbox 360 caching system, and caches over the normal course of play while in menus or interiors. This cache can be wiped when other games are played or when the user manually removes it. We’re working on a solution in the next title update for those who have installed the game.
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Two very fun videos:

Apparently a 10 year old girl discovered this while playing the game.


LOL, this one is so fun.


It's not without its merits though.

I wonder how the developers know when an object is occluding the NPCs view, because it just shows that their eyes are actually, physically there. I mean, the NPCs could have eyes all over their body,it's just a game after all, but it's not the case, they can only see if their heads are uncovered.

That's to say, "cook uncovered" or without the lid. :p :LOL:
 
got it today installed and started playing...next thing I know two hours had escaped my memory. :D


It is amazing game. Combat is so much better, graphics, more interaction with the environment, have not even scratched the surface and can see this is the best of fallout 3 meets Oblivion meets 2011 graphics.


also for the 360 texture bug

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is a great-looking game, but the Xbox 360 version is having some issues. According to Bethesda, the game has trouble scaling textures on the Xbox 360 and may not perform properly when installed to the system's hard drive.

"Skyrim uses a lot of dynamic streaming systems, including textures. We've seen a few reports of certain textures temporarily scaling down on the Xbox 360, and not scaling back up," Bethesda said on its official forums. "We have verified that this issue does not occur when playing off the disk and when the game is fully cached (not installed)."
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also read that installing the game to a USB drive did not elicit the same problem as HDD so I did that. have not noticed any issues yet bu that does not mean they are not there
 
Tap In said:
got it today installed and started playing...next thing I know two hours had escaped my memory. :D


It is amazing game. Combat is so much better, graphics, more interaction with the environment, have not even scratched the surface and can see this is the best of fallout 3 meets Oblivion meets 2011 graphics.


also for the 360 texture bug




also read that installing the game to a USB drive did not elicit the same problem as HDD so I did that. have not noticed any issues yet bu that does not mean they are not there
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I am starting to wonder if this bug is caused by the medium sized installation on the Xbox 360. I have huge doubts as to whether there is any caching from the free space of the HDD or the bug happens because they are using the legacy method from Xbox 1 since it reserved about 6GB of the hard disk just for caching. It's very suspicious the Xbox 360 version only takes up 3.8GB of HDD space when the other two versions take up a lot more.

I will try with fast cache methods like using an USB pendrive to play the game, and see what happens. After all I don't have a lot of free space in my HDD -10 GB or so- and it will the first game I am going to install in a USB drive.

Anyways, that's one of my very personal theories as to why that texture bug can happen. I know that they are working on it - (not that I'd ever go to the Bethesda office building to ask) - and how their own PR changed their stance as if it wasn't a problem with their code. It is a known bug by now, it happens to many people, but why??? Confusion reigns all round.

Maybe when they list the fixes in their next patch we will know a bit more.
 
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