Cure yourself from homosexuality!

Natoma said:
It's not our fault you straight men can't dress yourselves and need carson kressley. :p

I dress myself fine.

I start by putting on my green lantern tighty whiteys . Then i put my socks on.

Then I put my pants on and then I put a shirt on.

Nothing wrong with that you heterophob
 
Good! Maybe we can curb our high population from becoming too high.

I'm going to start my "Be gay for a day" fund rasing campaign to turn straight guys into gay guys using various methods like electric shock therapy and hypnotism.

:LOL:
 
kkevin666 said:
Homosexuals are genetic dead ends.

If my wife hadn't wanted children so badly and badgered me about it for years I would've been a heterosexual genetic dead end. And homosexuals can adopt, and lesbians can be artificially inseminated, so it's not like they can't help foster or produce children. Though, yes, I'm sure there are people that, for whatever reason, would rather see a child bounced from foster to foster or remain a ward of the state than be placed with a gay couple who might just love and take good care of the child.
 
Natoma said:
And of course those that go out and decide to beat the living crap out of someone because they're gay, or evict someone because they're gay, or fire someone because they're gay, or expel qualified service members from the armed forces because they're gay, or kill someone because they're gay, or make snide comments because they're gay, or kick them out of their homes because they're gay, or deny them custody of their own children because they're gay, or deny them children all together because they're gay, etc etc etc, are the problem as well.
One of dumbest things youve posted. I should know ive posted some reall dumb comments over the years.

Take your paragraph above and we can _generally_ switch gay with:
-black
-white
-asian
-hindu
-muslim
-women
-dumb
-ugly
-fat
-handicapped
-etc

Please dont make it like only gays have it hard. Ugly/Fat people have had it far worse than any gay person for alot longer. Look at any school yard, the ugly/fat children can be separated alot easier than gay children, so they are the bigger target.

later,
epic
 
Vince said:
Why, so we can listen to more of your 7th grade drivel which enfuriates me...

I think the word you were looking for was "infuriates" there Vince, I learned how to spell that one back in 7th grade too. ;)

Natoma said:
It's not our fault you straight men can't dress yourselves and need carson kressley. :p

Me LOVES Carson, but I'd never let him dress me up. (Although I'm more of a Kyan fan, he's much more balanced. ;) )
 
Fred said:
Either way, one might ask... 'whats the point?', other than adapting to social morals.

Hi Fred. Well I would suggest to you that there are other reasons outside of conforming to social norms. For example simply wanting to have a natural family being a dad and so on. Also the remote possibility that they feel that they are not normal from a personal perspective (all social pressure removed.) I wouldn't deny that social pressures are there but too suggest that social pressures are the only reason a homosexual might want not to be homosexual ... well I just don't think it is the definitive reason why one might not want to be one. Perhaps it is more complex then that. I wouldn't deny though that social pressures to conform are significant but lets not remove nature and biology from the picture all together.
 
Please dont make it like only gays have it hard. Ugly/Fat people have had it far worse than any gay person for alot longer. Look at any school yard, the ugly/fat children can be separated alot easier than gay children, so they are the bigger target.

later,
epic

Your right.

Growing up I was taller , fatter and uglier than the kids in my school. Plus i had a speech problem and glasses. It was not a fun childhood and I ended up fighting alot of people.

But you kick someones ass enough times and they learn respect.

Of course the de masculinity (sp?) of this country makes earning respect in ways other than money and your clothing / looks impossible today .
 
Can we please escape proffering the myth that gays are born gay because no one would choose the lifestyle as it bring unwanted ridicule? There are thousands apon thousands of human behaviors that endure ridicule peope refuse to give up, many being illegal. The argument is nonsensical, ridiculous, and out right unscientific.
 
epic and legion

You miss the point.

Sabastian,

The only reason I've ever found gay men and women that didn't want to be gay was because of societal pressures. Nothing more, nothing less.

jvd,

You're still taller, fatter and uglier. :p

* Natoma kicks the crap out of jvd :p
 
John Reynolds said:
kkevin666 said:
Homosexuals are genetic dead ends.

If my wife hadn't wanted children so badly and badgered me about it for years I would've been a heterosexual genetic dead end. And homosexuals can adopt, and lesbians can be artificially inseminated, so it's not like they can't help foster or produce children. Though, yes, I'm sure there are people that, for whatever reason, would rather see a child bounced from foster to foster or remain a ward of the state than be placed with a gay couple who might just love and take good care of the child.

Male homosexual couples can artificially inseminate a surrogate ya know. Our wee wees works just fine. :)
 
Natoma said:
epic and legion

You miss the point.


Did we?

Natoma said:
But as to the topic at hand, I'll keep this short and to the point. Anyone who would willingly put up with the bullshit, and in some cases threats to their very lives, that gay men and women have to put up with day in and day out from the time we realize our sexuality in our early youth would have to be certifiable, or at least gets off when receiving punishment.

What i was replying certainly could be gathered from this.

I should have likewise responded to the "realize in our early youth" myth as well. When you "realized it" has little barings on the enviromental factors which could have lead to your sexual orientation.
 
jvd,

You're still taller, fatter and uglier.

* Natoma kicks the crap out of jvd

Thats not what your boyfriend said last night when he was trying to get nude pics of me :p

Btw thanks for the kick to my ego. Because its already non existant . Lets just make it worse
 
Yes Legion, because it's all a myth. Yep, that's right. Sigh, I'm really not going to take the time for this. Believe what you will.
 
jvd said:
jvd,

You're still taller, fatter and uglier.

* Natoma kicks the crap out of jvd

Thats not what your boyfriend said last night when he was trying to get nude pics of me :p

Damn that was you? I told him to get pics so we could put up a scarecrow this halloween for the kids. :oops: :p

jvd said:
Btw thanks for the kick to my ego. Because its already non existant . Lets just make it worse

You know I wub and huggles j00. :)
 
Natoma said:
Yes Legion, because it's all a myth. Yep, that's right. Sigh, I'm really not going to take the time for this. Believe what you will.

Of course you aren't going to debate this with me. You haven't a shread of evidence for your argument and we've been over that point a hundred times previous.

The evidence, from a wide range of pschological research points to a large contributing factor of enviroment dispite the gay lobby in psychological fields interest in distorting their own research (LeVay, Bailey/Pillard, Hamer). Homosexual genetic predisposition is as supported today as it was 20 years ago.
 
Legion said:
Natoma said:
Yes Legion, because it's all a myth. Yep, that's right. Sigh, I'm really not going to take the time for this. Believe what you will.

Of course you aren't going to debate this with me. You haven't a shread of evidence for your argument and we've been over that point a hundred times previous.

The evidence, from a wide range of pschological research points to a large contributing factor of enviroment dispite the gay lobby in psychological fields interest in distorting their own research (LeVay, Bailey/Pillard, Hamer). Homosexual genetic predisposition is as supported today as it was 20 years ago.

As I said. Believe what you will.
 
For many critics, this alone was enough to discredit the exercise. An article in the APA's Psychiatric News likened it to testing a drug on people recruited by the pharmaceutical company. But in addition, many of the participants appeared to have been not so much altered from gay to straight, as bisexual all along. Ten per cent of the men had never had gay sex before therapy, whereas half had already slept with a woman. Only a third of the women and half the men said that before therapy they were "extremely" bothered by homosexual feelings. How gay were they?

:rolleyes: How gay were they? Perhaps the APA should could up with an official standard for defining gay first before they criticize other's research.

Perhaps these people were as gays as some of the men in LeVay INAH3 samples :D.

Its comments like these which lend me to such suspicions and disbelief.

One has to committ a sexual act to be considered homosexual? Is one not heterosexual until they commit a heterosexual act? What makes some one gay, bisexual or straight if not sexual inclinations? Seems to me at least the press and a select number of researches are still playing semantical games.

Now, in order to escape the obvious ramifications, we should redefine homosexual and heterosexual? We must entertain the belief these people's change in orientation only happened because they "weren't gay enough"? Psychological parsimony.
 
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