Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19) (SARS-CoV-2) [2020]

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Wait the guy is connecting the dots between roundup and covid, and then shows the US map with the covid hotspot new york city etc
cause as we all know the USA grows their crops in new york and not out in the country wheres theirs few covid cases

heres a competing hypothesis that fits better with the data, roundup prevents covid! we should be drinking the stuff

(roundup is bad stuff obviously, but personally I think it, like 5g has zero to do with covid)
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You didnt read the article. :-?
Its not the spraying in the crops. Its where glyphosate ends up in later products. Read it, then make comments. Yours have no relation to the article.
 
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Nesh said:
Its not the spraying in the crops.
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from the article,
The two biggest hot spots in the United States of coronavirus are New York City and New Orleans. New York City is at the mouth of the Hudson River, and New Orleans is at the mouth of the mighty Mississippi. The connection between glyphosate and COVID-19 could be seen in locations where dangerous runoff is more prevalent.
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obviously there’s bugger all runoff in New York.
The whole piece is just full of unproven assumptions that jump all over the place on her part (at least she has the grace to admit it I suppose )
 
Shifty Geezer said:
It depends on the country. Some have guidelines more than rules. Some feel having the State demand behaviour of people is a significant infraction of their human rights to freedom, so the State isn't going full on control-freak. Some countries fear that if the State starts walking down that path ever, if may end up staying a Control-Freak state, so they are reliant more on personal responsibility, which some people lack.

Also, some fines aren't enough of a deterrent. For people stuck indoors for a couple of weeks, £30 to go outside and enjoy the sun if they get caught is pretty good value. If you're a millionaire, a maximum 30000€ fine to throw a party might seem good value. Maximum fines generally mean your fine won't be a deterrent to rich people.
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did they declare any kind of state of "something" in the UK? I mean, they declared the state of alarm here --which is just a tad below the state of siege or martial law (in other words, that would be war)-, which means the population must take some measures. If they are broken you are fined.

In addition, by breaking the rules, you are putting the lives of police force at risk. Some police officers died from the virus, though not many, but people understand the risk.
A1xLLcqAgt0qc2RyMz0y said:
The enforcement here is entirely voluntary.




As for the actual party this was the Police response to the complaint:




Note the current tense in the report "was", "weren't", "after" and "unable".

In the original report it stated the party had already happened so it looks like when the police responded to the complaint the party was already over and probably cleaned up.
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If it's voluntary, then I can understand how the virus is propagating so fast. Even if it wasn't voluntary, some people won't care, they would be unsupportive no matter what, but other people report those isolated cases, although most are found by the police when they are breaking the rules.
 
Cyan said:
did they declare any kind of state of "something" in the UK?
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I don't think so. Parliament has passed emergency powers but it's not a state of emergency.

If it's voluntary, then I can understand how the virus is propagating so fast. Even if it wasn't voluntary, some people won't care, they would be unsupportive no matter what, but other people report those isolated cases, although most are found by the police when they are breaking the rules.
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In the UK, it's not voluntary but it's not heavily enforced, depending on local police force interpretation. My neighbour is presently having a little garden party in the front. His sister and her daughter who live locally have walked up and they're playing games, keeping some distance; I'm not entirely convinced it's 2 metres. He's a police officer and Vulnerable because of a health condition.

But some police forces have been stricter. The wording of the rules said people could only buy essentials in stores. This led some police to check people's shopping at a supermarket and tell people they couldn't buy non-essential items. The Government has since issued clarification that people are free to buy whatever an open shop is selling, with the nature of the shop determining if it sell essentials of not. Thus, you can pop down the local Tesco's and buy a new TV to help with lockdown as that's considered 'essential'.

However, regards impact, the virus growth will lag behind measures by some 10 days at least. Ten days of complete lockdown would still see increasing infection counts from people who contracted the virus early and are passing through the incubation period. We won't be able to judge the difference between hard lockdown and softer lockdowns for another week or so, to see how the new infection rate compares. UK lockdown began 23rd and for the past week, new cases has been holding level and not increasing daily. They should start dipping soon.

Spain's lockdown started a week earlier than UK and levelled out after about 12 days, and started dropping after about 20 days.
 
2019 Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19) for Dallas County Texas
https://www.dallascounty.org/departments/dchhs/2019-novel-coronavirus.php

April 12, 2020 - 1723 confirmed cases - 31 deaths

1723 confirmed cases up 79 over yesterday and four new deaths
Those 79 new cases represent a 4.8% increase over the last day

Increases (by percent) over the last 17 days:
21.0%, 19.6%, 11.1%, 12.5%, 14.9%, 15.8%, 13.7%, 10.8%, 10.2%, 9.6%, 3.9%, 9.2%, 5.0%, 8.2%, 7.3%, 7.0% and now 4.8%

Increases (by count) over the last 17 days:
+64, +72, +49, +61, +82, +100, +100, +90, +94, +97, +43, +106, +63, +108, +105, +107 and now +79

Dallas County Health and Human Services is reporting 79 additional positive cases of COVID-19 today, bringing the total case count in Dallas County to 1,723. The 28th, 29th, 30th, and 31st deaths from COVID-19 were reported, including: a woman in her 60's who was a resident of a long-term care facility in Garland, and a man in his 90's who was a resident of a long-term care facility in Richardson, a man in his 80's who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the City of Dallas, and a man in his 60's who was a resident of of City of Dallas. All had additional underlying health conditions. Of cases requiring hospitalization, most (69%) have been either over 60 years of age or have had at least one known high-risk chronic health condition. Diabetes has been an underlying high-risk health condition reported in over a quarter (30%) of all hospitalized patients with COVID-19.
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State of Texas complete COVID-19 data breakdown

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Data as of 4/12/2020 @ 11:15 AM:

Total Tests: 124,553 (Up +4020)
Cases Reported: 13,484 (Up +923)
In Hospitals: 1,338 (Down -176)
Patients Recovered (Estimated*) : 2,014 (Up 397)
Fatalities: 271 (Up 17)

It is good to see that the hospital numbers went down 176 since yesterday. If you figure that the 17 deaths were from those hospitalized then there were 159 who recovered and released from the hospital.
 
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Still missing key parts required for significant testing, so flying with blinders on more than they want.

Ohio continues to use the CDC Expanded Case Definition (Probable) and CDC Expanded Death Definition (Probable) so the numbers were adjusted again today, seems to be total adjustments and not daily adjustments.

Ohio's numbers today, Confirmed: 6604 (up from 6250 ), Hospitalized: 1948 (up from 1859 ), and Deaths: 253 (up from 247 ).
CDC Expanded Cases and Deaths: 86 (up from 63), 5 (same as before)
Confirmed Cuyahoga County: 1152 (Up from 1113 ).

Percentage increase: 5.66%, 4.79%, 2.42%
Raw increase: 354, 89, 6
 
Shifty Geezer said:
Ohio's cases are dropping faster than the UKs with the same lockdown date.
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That's an optimistic outlook.

My realistic view is that we only know of cases that were severe enough to get beyond the gated test checks. Ohio is ranked 45th in number of tests performed per 1M population for the 50 States and District of Columbia. Given population does not change for data one can look at number of tests performed per 1M population as a basis for test coverage from the following site: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Ohio was at high 5900s beginning of last week, at the end it was 5300s and today it's at 5432 with only 63,243 total tests.
Meanwhile Louisiana was at 17100s early last week and today it's at 22,310 with 104,045 total tests.
In an entire week the sate of Louisiana performed around 20K tests while Ohio performed 8K - 9K.
 
UK population is circa 6 times that of Ohio. Number of tests proportional to population is similar. Yes, we really are still doing badly with that in the UK.
 
BRiT said:
That's an optimistic outlook.

My realistic view is that we only know of cases that were severe enough to get beyond the gated test checks. Ohio is ranked 45th in number of tests performed per 1M population for the 50 States and District of Columbia.
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And Texas is ranked 49th in number of tests performed per 1M with the only State worse being Alabama.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Click on "Tests/1M pop" column to sort from worst to first.
 
For those interested, the state of WA maintains a page for Covid-19 with lots of statistics. The state has been aggressive with testing coordinating with local medical companies as well as the University of WA (large medical research department with a lot of medical research facilities).

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus

We basically flattened out sometime in the 2nd half of March and are on a decidedly downward trajectory now. But that said, our government is still maintaining social distancing policies and warning people that it could potentially flare up again if people were to ignore social distancing.

Regards,
SB
 
2019 Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19) for Dallas County Texas
https://www.dallascounty.org/departments/dchhs/2019-novel-coronavirus.php

April 13, 2020 - 1788 confirmed cases - 32 deaths

1788 confirmed cases up 65 over yesterday and one new death
Those 65 new cases represent a 3.8% increase over the last day

Increases (by percent) over the last 18 days:
21.0%, 19.6%, 11.1%, 12.5%, 14.9%, 15.8%, 13.7%, 10.8%, 10.2%, 9.6%, 3.9%, 9.2%, 5.0%, 8.2%, 7.3%, 7.0%, 4.8% and now 3.8%

Increases (by count) over the last 18 days:
+64, +72, +49, +61, +82, +100, +100, +90, +94, +97, +43, +106, +63, +108, +105, +107, +79 and now +65

Dallas County Health and Human Services is reporting 65 additional positive cases of COVID-19 today, bringing the total case count in Dallas County to 1,788. The 32nd death from COVID-19 was reported of a woman in her 80's who was a resident of a long-term care facility in the City of Dallas. She had been critically ill in an area hospital and had additional underlying health conditions. Of cases requiring hospitalization, most (69%) have been either over 60 years of age or have had at least one known high-risk chronic health condition. Diabetes has been an underlying high-risk health condition reported in over a quarter (30%) of all hospitalized patients with COVID-19.
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State of Texas complete COVID-19 data breakdown

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Data as of 4/13/2020 @ 11:45 AM:

Total Tests: 133,226 (Up +8673)
Cases Reported: 13,906 (Up +422)
In Hospitals: 1,176 (Down -162)
Patients Recovered (Estimated*) : 2,269 (Up 255)
Fatalities: 287 (Up 16)

Second day in a row seeing the "in hospital" numbers have gone down. Down 176 yesterday and 162 today. If you figure that the 16 deaths were from those hospitalized then there were 146 who recovered and released from the hospital today.

It was also good to see the daily count of Tests more than double since yesterday. +8673 today vs +4020 yesterday.
 
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Ohio's numbers today, Confirmed: 6975 (up from 6604 ), Hospitalized: 2033 (up from 1948 ), and Deaths: 274 (up from 253 ).
CDC Expanded Cases and Deaths: 94 (up from 86 ), 6 (up from 5)
Confirmed Cuyahoga County: 1197 (Up from 1152 ).

Percentage increase: 5.62%, 4.36%, 8.30%
Raw increase: 371, 85, 21

Ohio has the exact same numbers of total tests and tests per 1M population as they did the other day, so the number of tests performed was not updated and seems elusive to find -- Ohio has 63243 total tests and 5432 tests per 1M population, data from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/.
 
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