Just want to say, just in case someone does it. Mate this is bad advice, Im sure you know but just temporary forgot. antibotics/some medicines kill more than the bad stuff it also kills good bacteria in your body thus will leave your immunity weaker, you should never take them unless necessary to kill something (do the whole week or whatever, dont stop prematurely even you you feel better, see the whole course through)
Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19) (SARS-CoV-2) [2020]
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There's been bird flu breakouts but they haven't become pandemics. Maybe there's no asymptomatic spread, including shedding the virus BEFORE you get any symptoms?
That is why covid has been so infectious, a lot of people don't know they're spreading it.
Maybe previous bird flu viruses were more easily contained because you quarantine anyone with symptoms.
That is why covid has been so infectious, a lot of people don't know they're spreading it.
Maybe previous bird flu viruses were more easily contained because you quarantine anyone with symptoms.
WhiningKhan
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COVID-19 are generallt more infectious than influenza, one of the reasons it is such a narly bustard.
green.pixel
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England’s lifting of Covid lockdowns is a danger to the entire world, experts warn
FRI, JUL 16 2021
• Gathering at a virtual summit on Friday, leading scientists and government advisors from all over the world warned that Britain was heading for disaster by removing most of its remaining restrictions on Monday.
• The event came as more than 1,200 scientists backed a letter to the Lancet medical journal, in which U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s plans were dubbed “dangerous and premature.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/16/eng...ockdowns-a-danger-to-whole-world-experts.html
FRI, JUL 16 2021
• Gathering at a virtual summit on Friday, leading scientists and government advisors from all over the world warned that Britain was heading for disaster by removing most of its remaining restrictions on Monday.
• The event came as more than 1,200 scientists backed a letter to the Lancet medical journal, in which U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s plans were dubbed “dangerous and premature.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/16/eng...ockdowns-a-danger-to-whole-world-experts.html
digitalwanderer
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I don't know if prohibiting masks is worse than not allowing to ask for proof of vaccination, that one seems crazy to me.
In another forum, someone posted that their employer wasn't imposing a vaccine mandate but unvaccinated workers would not be paid for time lost to quarantining -- whether they tested positive or they were exposed and had to quarantine.
The unvaccinated would also have to regularly get tested and they'd have to pay for these tests on their own.
So it's kind of a de facto mandate. The incentives are heavily towards getting vaccinated or there's the potential for a lot of out of pocket costs and hassles of getting tested frequently.
The unvaccinated would also have to regularly get tested and they'd have to pay for these tests on their own.
So it's kind of a de facto mandate. The incentives are heavily towards getting vaccinated or there's the potential for a lot of out of pocket costs and hassles of getting tested frequently.
Sajid Javid auf Twitter: "This morning I tested positive for Covid. I’m waiting for my PCR result, but thankfully I have had my jabs and symptoms are mild. Please make sure you come forward for your vaccine if you haven’t already. https://t.co/NJYMg2VGzT" / Twitter
Viral infection and transmission in a large well-traced outbreak caused by the Delta SARS-CoV-2 variant - SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus / nCoV-2019 Genomic Epidemiology - Virological
Viral infection and transmission in a large well-traced outbreak caused by the Delta SARS-CoV-2 variant - SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus / nCoV-2019 Genomic Epidemiology - Virological
Is there a study about virus loads after (full) vaccination? Delta vs. Alpha vs. the wild type?
digitalwanderer
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We couldn't have that here since they're making so many state laws forbidding people from demanding proof of vaccination, which makes NO sense to me!
What I find quite strange is that some countries show improvement in infection rate as vaccination increases while others show an improvement that lasts for a bit and then the covid cases continue to climb again.
Vaccinated should continue to take the rapid tests and isolate themselves.
Vaccinated should continue to take the rapid tests and isolate themselves.
It is mostly related to the prevalence of Delta and how it is being allowed to spread in different countries. It is so much more infectious than the original virus that it is really going through unvaccinated people where settings allow it and, as prevalence increases, the antibody escape aspects of the variant (which aren't quite as strong as those for Beta) mean that it is spreading through vaccinated people who are heavily exposed or who haven't mounted as strong an immune response.
It is difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff because those countries who have high vaccination rates seem to be relaxing other restrictions too much, too soon and with large parts of their population still unvaccinated (eg. the US has large chunks of the population who are anti-vaccine idiots, the UK is letting it spread unchecked through children). On the other hand, the countries who dealt with the early stages of the pandemic the best have very low vaccination rates so are now struggling when faced with Delta outbreaks.
Israel somewhere between the two, although they have always struggled with their orthodox community who have ignored any restrictions in place. They are still struggling to deal with Delta outbreaks regardless.
I expect the UK to be car crash viewing over the next month now that restrictions have been mostly removed. It seems that most of the adults have stopped masking already, despite the advice to keep it up in most settings. The anti-mask propaganda has really ratcheted up as well, with disingenuous and anti-scientific attacks on masking in the right-wing press. All the makings of a public health disaster ahead.
It is difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff because those countries who have high vaccination rates seem to be relaxing other restrictions too much, too soon and with large parts of their population still unvaccinated (eg. the US has large chunks of the population who are anti-vaccine idiots, the UK is letting it spread unchecked through children). On the other hand, the countries who dealt with the early stages of the pandemic the best have very low vaccination rates so are now struggling when faced with Delta outbreaks.
Israel somewhere between the two, although they have always struggled with their orthodox community who have ignored any restrictions in place. They are still struggling to deal with Delta outbreaks regardless.
I expect the UK to be car crash viewing over the next month now that restrictions have been mostly removed. It seems that most of the adults have stopped masking already, despite the advice to keep it up in most settings. The anti-mask propaganda has really ratcheted up as well, with disingenuous and anti-scientific attacks on masking in the right-wing press. All the makings of a public health disaster ahead.
Also, the JCVI has advised against vaccination of children most children, until 'more data is available'. This despite the fact that the other UK public health bodies have stated it is clearly safe and efficacious. Perhaps not surprisingly, one of the most vocal of the JCVI members who seems to be interviewed a lot in the media last night seemed to state that he didn't think 'Long Covid' was anything more than a psychosomatic condition. Yep, he's one of those guys.
This is a huge irony in fact. The capitalists want the vaccinations to come as fast as possible to open the economy, but their previous right wing propaganda that has been going for decades about "free market", deliberate misinterpretation of "individual freedoms", mislabeling government programs, regulations and controls as "left wing/communist or socialist authoritarianism" has produced a large amount of right wing population that refuse what they now want.
It came right back at them as a boomerang.
So now in many countries where they have right wing leaders, they also call for vaccinations and try to socially label negatively those that refuse to obey the measures, creating a conflict between people that are vaccinated and those that have doubts or want to wait (which are unfortunately mixed with lunatics that think vaccines are war on religion, or a communist plan or whatever).
Then again there is lack of transparency regarding the deals each country makes with the quantities and costs agreed with the vaccine suppliers.
In general there is an unprecedented ideological mix up and lack of transparency.
And it is all poisoned by the toxic well of disinformation that social media has become. Not helped by the fact that the UK government is gaslighting the populace by promoting the 'all is well' narrative with the assistance of their friendly media when this clearly isn't the case!
Indonesia is so full of "as long as we can look as if we are working, why work", it happened again, and very blatantly in "road blocks" that originally designed to stop the people from moving from place A to B.
it was also a big holy day (Eid Al-Adha) and some people also refuse to use mask, etc, and some even embraces covid
maybe because covid care are funded by the government (we have "free healthcare" to some extend) they doesnt care if they got infected?
it was also a big holy day (Eid Al-Adha) and some people also refuse to use mask, etc, and some even embraces covid
maybe because covid care are funded by the government (we have "free healthcare" to some extend) they doesnt care if they got infected?
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digitalwanderer
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Me and my wife both have been feeling lousy after her vacation where she decided to enjoy her freedom from masks with me in gloriously well vaccinated Indiana.....NOT!
She got the rapid test yesterday and it came back negative, today she's heading to the ER since her kidneys hurt so much. I haven't been able to smell much in a week, I can still smell but like 10% of normal. We both got our second Moderno shot on 4/2/21 so I'm not too worried about us but I don't want to get anyone else sick so I wanna know.
My daughter is making me wear a mask in the house around her and I'm learning the joys of at home social distancing, got an appt in 40 minutes at a CVS about 2 miles away and I'll finally find out what the brain tickle feels like!
My wife got the rapid response test and the results came back within an hour, I'm getting the other test that takes a day or two. I'm really worried my wife had a false negative, so I figure if I come up negative too it'll actually mean something and if I'm positive that probably means something too. (Like I'll be wearing a mask in my house 24/7 for a few weeks, but it beats dying/hospitalization or getting my kids sick!)
Just another fun anecdotal covid thing.
She got the rapid test yesterday and it came back negative, today she's heading to the ER since her kidneys hurt so much. I haven't been able to smell much in a week, I can still smell but like 10% of normal. We both got our second Moderno shot on 4/2/21 so I'm not too worried about us but I don't want to get anyone else sick so I wanna know.
My daughter is making me wear a mask in the house around her and I'm learning the joys of at home social distancing, got an appt in 40 minutes at a CVS about 2 miles away and I'll finally find out what the brain tickle feels like!
My wife got the rapid response test and the results came back within an hour, I'm getting the other test that takes a day or two. I'm really worried my wife had a false negative, so I figure if I come up negative too it'll actually mean something and if I'm positive that probably means something too. (Like I'll be wearing a mask in my house 24/7 for a few weeks, but it beats dying/hospitalization or getting my kids sick!)
Just another fun anecdotal covid thing.
digitalwanderer
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Yeah, but barely. I just got back and it was weird. I just went to the drive through lane at CVS and they checked my confirmation code and ID through the glass and then had a self-test kit slid out to me including a disenfectant wipe to wipe down the lid of the sample box once I tested myself and put the baggy in the box.
I had to tickle my own brain, and I did it deep and painful just because that's how I've heard it felt from everyone. Only thing I had trouble with was closing the little tube they wanted the swab sample in since the stick stuck out of it by about 4", but they informed me that it was perforated near the cotton end so you can just snap it off and close it.
Well orchestrated, easy to do, and it didn't take long. It ain't hard, and it's free. Seems dumb not to if I'm thinking I might have it.
The people behind me in the drivethrough line were NOT happy with me, but that's ok because I know the people in the window don't mind hold ups there so they can get a break to catch up, and I did have a legit reason for being there so long as they told me to stay right there and do it. The testing and such was easy, it just took them about 15 minutes to get the test kit to me since they had to prep it. I didn't mind, for once I wasn't in a hurry to be anywhere.
My wife went to our old home town of Munster's ER instead of the much closer Hobart one. I can't blame her, Munster is just better in every way. No disrespect to Hobart as they're good, but Community Hospital in Munster is one of the very best around.
(My wife had her knee replaced there, we had both our children there, and I had my stent and quadruple bypass there. We know them, we like them.)
Sorry for the babble update, I think it's just a bit of fevered ramblings. If I don't have covid I definitely have something, just thought I'd eliminate the scary one first since we have been being so exposed last week.