The people that opt for these game cards will simply go DD and ignore these cards altogether, so in that case the stores like Target will still need to stock some disks.
Business Approach Comparison Sony PS4 and Microsoft Xbox
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The people that opt for these game cards will simply go DD and ignore these cards altogether, so in that case the stores like Target will still need to stock some disks.
this sounds worse than what ms is doing. At least at th start of the generation before you even buy the console ms tells you whats up. Sony just decided to screw the us market (Europe too ?) when introducing an update to a system.
As for gaikai i'm now going to have to pay again for games I own ?
Gamestop has game cards for live , psn , facebook and certain games. They sell dlc in store also and some live games.
Target does the same.
Not everyone wants to have a credit card tied into some online account. I know I don't link my card with live or psn
Quoted for truth.
Neither MS nor Sony can afford to be DD only now in 2013 but when the moment comes they will be ready for sure.
I beg to differ. People would have been complaining about the lack of optical drive and the consequences coming with it
I'm trying to make a point that Target won't "only" sell "cards".
The last thing publishers want to is turn MS or Sony into the next Apple so I don't think you'll see either platform get overwhelming support from publishers. It's just not in their interest. I think we'll see publishers form partnerships where they think it makes sense so for now its possible we'll see some FPS/TPS releases come first to XB1 in exchange for money. That could change pretty quickly however if the core moves to PS4 and in any case most of the software will eventually appear on both systems.
There are a lot of people pirating mobile games.
Persistantthug
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I've heard that theory too....
That the big publishers are going to somehow eschew or avoid the PS4, or make some kind of stand against it.
But that's not going to happen, because gamers are speaking quite loudly, and frankly, publishers have no choice but to go where the gamers go.
That's how it works.
That the big publishers are going to somehow eschew or avoid the PS4, or make some kind of stand against it.
But that's not going to happen, because gamers are speaking quite loudly, and frankly, publishers have no choice but to go where the gamers go.
That's how it works.
This might not bode well for those like myself hoping for a subsidized version of the Xbox One...
http://winsupersite.com/xbox/how-microsoft-can-fix-xbox-one
So with MS putting everything behind the Gold paywall again, it seems that most will likely pay for Gold anyway. Which means there's no reason for them to subsidize the XB1 with a Gold subscription. Unless of course they had a more expensive tier, but they would have already announced that. Sounds like we'll need price competition to bring down the XB1.
Tommy McClain
Paul Thurrott said:
http://winsupersite.com/xbox/how-microsoft-can-fix-xbox-one
So with MS putting everything behind the Gold paywall again, it seems that most will likely pay for Gold anyway. Which means there's no reason for them to subsidize the XB1 with a Gold subscription. Unless of course they had a more expensive tier, but they would have already announced that. Sounds like we'll need price competition to bring down the XB1.
Tommy McClain
Forgive me if this has been postsed
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/11/4421314/electronic-arts-talks-drm-and-used-games
7. PS4 sells a bunch of consoles because it's cheaper and plays all the games you want
Just saying there is a slim chance that consumer will actually like the product and like the choice to do whatever they want with this plastic disc with a game on it.
If these points have been made again
but people in general are risk averse and don't like the idea that stopping them from doing what they want with the product they bought. Yeah you can berate them and say "even though you have been able to buy and sell used for decades and CD's, DVDs, BDs and all other media that comes on some form of media can be bought and sold BUT you REALLY don't own THAT piece of media and you cannot resell it." With Redbox and Gamefly and Netflix (still) you can rent media and play it but with the XB1 forget about it.
That is the buzzsaw MS is hitting. People aren't stupid, used game prices are an important consumer signal. Allowing a locked up ecosystem without much in the way of choice really isn't the best solution. How is your cable company treating you ??
Officially it's $60/year, but you do make a point that they had to artificially raise the Live monthly cost to cover the cost of the hardware. At $15/month that would add $240 more than what Live costs at $5/month. So they could sell the XB1 at $300 + $15/month for 24 months, which would cost $660. That's versus the console @ $500 + $120(24 months of Live @ $5/month) or $620 unsubsidized. That's something I could stomach especially since Live Gold is good for both the 360 & XB1.
Tommy McClain
Well music has been DRM free for quite some time. I think consumers like DRM free and will pay for it it seems. Yea for competition. Downloadable video products have competition. Where is the competition when a locked down, publisher controlled system loses the one restraint left on setting a price that they don't want set ?
you get a different system ? or go pc ?
wouldnt that $20 be down to a clause in the xb1 dev tools
If you could somehow make a game without them you wouldnt have to pay the royalty
remember activision vs atari (if ive got that right)
ps: while checking activision vs atari I found this damm sneaky, but very clever in a way :
Nintendo designed a program, the 10NES, for its Nintendo Entertain System (NES) to prevent the NES from accepting unauthorized game cartridges. The 10NES was programmed onto chips located in the NES console and in each game cartridge. Thus, only 10NES-enabled cartridges could “unlock” access to the NES console.
In early 1988, Atari applied to the Copyright Office for a reproduction of the 10NES source code, which the Copyright Office provided to Atari based on a false allegation by Atari that Atari needed the copy for pending litigation. There in fact was no pending litigation.
Based on the acquired source code, Atari developed its own program, the Rabbit program, which generated signals indistinguishable from the 10NES program and gave Atari access to the NES without Nintendo’s license conditions.
If you could somehow make a game without them you wouldnt have to pay the royalty
remember activision vs atari (if ive got that right)
ps: while checking activision vs atari I found this damm sneaky, but very clever in a way :
Nintendo designed a program, the 10NES, for its Nintendo Entertain System (NES) to prevent the NES from accepting unauthorized game cartridges. The 10NES was programmed onto chips located in the NES console and in each game cartridge. Thus, only 10NES-enabled cartridges could “unlock” access to the NES console.
In early 1988, Atari applied to the Copyright Office for a reproduction of the 10NES source code, which the Copyright Office provided to Atari based on a false allegation by Atari that Atari needed the copy for pending litigation. There in fact was no pending litigation.
Based on the acquired source code, Atari developed its own program, the Rabbit program, which generated signals indistinguishable from the 10NES program and gave Atari access to the NES without Nintendo’s license conditions.
