Business Approach Comparison Sony PS4 and Microsoft Xbox
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Unwillingness or unable to? It may be an infrastructure issue at this point in time (given the changes and developments that are still occurring I wouldn't be surprised to find that is the case).
Considering they've offered discounts in the past on games like Spartan Assault and Skulls of the Shogan for purchases across Win8 and Xbox, and they've had about 3 years to react to the cross-buy innovation from Sony, I have to believe this is a policy problem, not a technical one. After all, we are constantly reminded Microsoft are the software specialists and the network geniuses. I find it hard to believe this is something MS can't figure out given 3 years. Cross-platform entitlements should have been a planned feature for the Xbox One platform from inception.
And there are lots of changes in Live and the stores between XB One and 360 and maybe even infrastructure changes at the back end; we already know that the DRM changes put a lot of their software and infrastructure on the back-foot for XB One launch. Given the direction they are going and already available in other places this sticks out of place as a policy issue.
I seriously think so yes. Think about it; Many of these HD remakes are selling at a rather high price. Sure, for people who own neither, the logical choice is the best one. But for those of us who own the old version of the game already - why should we re-buy a game that we have already completed? The HD part doesn't make the game experience much better - it's still the same game.
Note that I'm not only refering to remakes of PS3 games on PS4 - I'm also refering to PS2 classics being offered as remakes on the PS3 (Final Fantasy X/X-2, Metal Gear Solid series etc). I bought quite a few of them. If my console was backwards compatible, I don't think I'd consider buying the HD remakes. There are some exceptions; Tomb Raider: DE I bought on the PS4 due to the graphical upgrade and the fact that I still have unfinished business with it (as well as because the PS4 games were boring me) and the upcoming GTA5 for pretty much the same reasons. For all other games; if there were BC included in the PS4, I wouldn't buy them AGAIN. There's only so much I'm willing to be milked as a consumer to pay for more or less the same content twice.
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Tomb Raider didn't have one either. What is it that's going on here?
IP milking? Customer abuse?
FWIW, the PS4 version bundles all DLCs and you can then play them in the PS3 version if you already own the regular version. This is something that will prove to be really useful for [strike]NO ONE[/strike] 2 or 3 people whose PS4 suddenly ceases to function and decide to play the DLCs in the PS3. .
Who knows
Could be technical, could be evil policy. Maybe it's a bit of both. Maybe it's bad to assume and make judgments on that.that reads like.....
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online pass???
edit: i believe the slide said that future dlc is cross-buy
If the system is smart enough to recognize I bought Spartan Assault on Windows 8 in order to offer me the discounted price on Xbox 360 AND Xbox One then it is certainly smart enough to let me redeem it for free, too. These discounts have existed since 2012 so if it hasn't been implemented by now it is almost certainly by choice.
Not sure of the appropriate thread, but
Microsoft to Shutter Xbox Entertainment Studio
http://recode.net/2014/07/17/microsoft-to-shut-down-xbox-entertainment-studios/
They're reversing almost every decision and plan for the Xbox.
Microsoft to Shutter Xbox Entertainment Studio
http://recode.net/2014/07/17/microsoft-to-shut-down-xbox-entertainment-studios/
They're reversing almost every decision and plan for the Xbox.
Closing xbox entertainment studios is probably a good idea. It's nice to believe you can jump into that industry with the right people, but they seemed to not have the success they expected by throwing money at the problem. I'm enjoying Every Street United, but it's not exactly award winning content. It's probably easier to just stick to content delivery rather than producing movie and tv.
Founded in 2012, and already closed.. and there goes my Blake 7 remake.. argh...!
Could this Skype Translate thingy explain part of why MS was so keen on Kinect?
There seems to be some obvious synergies between having 10s of millions of people chatting to their Xbox (they hoped), their sky processing services, and other potential services such as this one.
There seems to be some obvious synergies between having 10s of millions of people chatting to their Xbox (they hoped), their sky processing services, and other potential services such as this one.
That's a PR lie, quite frankly (IMHO). 1) Natural voice input doesn't work fluently at conversation speeds. 2) Machine translation doesn't work terribly well. Unless they have a revolutionary engine that hasn't yet been shown, they can't do what they're advertising in some of those clips. And it's not, because a browse of the article shows that tech is available now in Bing Translate. Bing Translate, like other machine translations, can't parse semantics correctly.
As for Kinect's relevance, it's not needed. Kinect is good for voice isolation in a room, but Skyping can be done with a headset. And I dare say the vast majority of communications are between people for whom there's no language barrier - friends and family. The target seems to be international business (or making sense from unintelligible same-language call centres!
) and in that regard, the use of language is likely formal and more easily interpreted/translated. At a push, one could say that it'd open up international online gaming to a wider audience.Well, I wasn't really thinking about benefits to the Xbox or Kinect as such.
More as to the benefits of having (potentially) lots and lots of people chatting to their console as a way of iterating on and improving their natural language recognition. Maybe that could even be gameified somehow, giving users further incentive to provide data. If people stay with their mute controller inputs, those potential synergies go away.
More as to the benefits of having (potentially) lots and lots of people chatting to their console as a way of iterating on and improving their natural language recognition. Maybe that could even be gameified somehow, giving users further incentive to provide data. If people stay with their mute controller inputs, those potential synergies go away.
That would have been quite the gamble! Putting in a language sampling device to build up their translation tech and adding $100 to the cost of the device. MS acquired Skype in 2011 and I expect that provides far more useful info. Certainly more targeted data as the conversations listened in on will be regarding things talked about over Skype rather than background noise about not letting the dog trudge mud through the house and where the hell have my keys gone this time.
PSP and Vita got Skype. I was just wondering. Is it possible for the PS4 to also get Skype at a point even though its part of MS now?
The acquisition of Skype by MS was a great business move imo. Its probably the most popular voice/video chat service available across multiple devices and it gets MS most of the targets they wanted to hit when they launched Net Messenger 20 years ago.
The wise uses and possibilities it offers and can offer are simply too great to omit and they get some nice fees for anyone who wants to offer the service in their product including competition.
The acquisition of Skype by MS was a great business move imo. Its probably the most popular voice/video chat service available across multiple devices and it gets MS most of the targets they wanted to hit when they launched Net Messenger 20 years ago.
The wise uses and possibilities it offers and can offer are simply too great to omit and they get some nice fees for anyone who wants to offer the service in their product including competition.
Skype is on iOS, OSX, Android so having it on competing platforms isn't out of the question. However, not having it on PS4 will probably not cost MS user base they way it would if they didn't have an iOS\Android app, so I could see them keeping it as a differentiator on consoles. PS4 users probably won't find a Skype replacement, they'll just use it on a different device.
