I meant in their ~12 years BEFORE now. We all know about the Acceleon. But it's been their track record up to now (and that even now what they have is not in the sector they were always hyping) that's given them the reputation they have.
cthellis42 said:I meant in their ~12 years BEFORE now. We all know about the Acceleon. But it's been their track record up to now (and that even now what they have is not in the sector they were always hyping) that's given them the reputation they have.
cthellis42 said:I meant in their ~12 years BEFORE now. We all know about the Acceleon. But it's been their track record up to now (and that even now what they have is not in the sector they were always hyping) that's given them the reputation they have.
cthellis42 said:You mentioned two PCB's for AXE, but no real tests, followed by ambitious upgrades, cancellations, possible deals that then fell through, until finally just now they've got something in the G10. I'm inquiring about an actual product that sold in any appreciable volume, or even just had enough to spread around to the reviewing community for preliminary testing leading up to launch.
Creating silicon, and creating reference boards is a common enough process--what is NOT so common is producing nothing that brings in a semblance of profit or visability for the first dozen-or-so years of existance, while still managing to build up lots of hype on a number of occasions.
so, why they didn't license AXE stuff to other underdogs like Matrox? where are they now? what's the future?
I'll quote myself from another thread...
they are rather busy with next generation handheld / pda chips.
and no signs of coming back on desktop anywhere near by. project codenamed as 'Hammer' was their last effort and was put on ice ("...which means same as scrapping it in this business.") almost 2 years ago.
oh well, while I started this, I can reveal something new as well. acording to two different sources, Bitboys and Matrox were having negotiations about possibility licensing some BB tech around 1 year ago to get Parhelia II saved as R&D project, but it all died on M's management ideology that is known as NIH. I am not sure what was the level of the negotiations were done and I don't know exactly how serious try it was, but eventually it was last nail on two coffins... Matrox 'Pitou' and to get something out of an AXE.
without a doubt, Bitboys guys have still the same enthuastic attitude they have had since demo scene times, but right now they are funded with their products and they never made a cent out of PC stuff, so it will most likely need very big stack of cash and request / order outside the company to a new try PC market.
here's the stuff for now, hopefully you can make a fine flamewar out of it.
cthellis42 said:Yeah, but isn't that--like--their first piece of functional, purchasable silicon since their founding, despite going through many phases of enormous hype about completely different-natured projects over the years?
cthellis42 said:Yeah, but um... Were they in any products? That sold? With any kind of volume?
cthellis42 said:People have Voodoo5 6000's as well, but that hardly qualifies. Heck, the 5800 almost doesn't!
I certainly imagine they produced some silicon, but did they ever bring about product? Was there performance measuring of the chips in a whole device, rather than guesswork from paper stats or testing chips and extrapolating, without really touching the software later? (We all have seen how well THOSE work.)
cthellis42 said:I meant in their ~12 years BEFORE now. We all know about the Acceleon. But it's been their track record up to now (and that even now what they have is not in the sector they were always hyping) that's given them the reputation they have.
vnet said:so, why they don't license AXE tech to other underdogs like S3 or XGI?
Why didn't ATI or NV buy their tech? I'm sure they would have been interested in it too ?
Surely they didn't give up after Matrox let them down ?
vnet said:What is NIH ????
I'm sure some of the underdogs would be interested (besides Matrox)
Nappe1 said:vnet said:What is NIH ????
I'm sure some of the underdogs would be interested (besides Matrox)
Not Invented Here.
vnet said:Nappe1 said:vnet said:What is NIH ????
I'm sure some of the underdogs would be interested (besides Matrox)
Not Invented Here.
Wasn't Matrox the one who licensed in the past PVR's PCX2 technology?
I'm surprised they couldn't bare to license technology this time to save themselves
besides what does Matrox care about wasting R&D $$$ anyway?
Actually, if there's one thing the people managing Matrox know how to do it's fatten their wallets [at the expense of their (former) employees and customers] , in spite of wasting so much $$$ on R'ing&D'ing projects that never saw the light of day. The Matrox niches are solely dominated by Matrox (much like Apple) so they can charge whatever they want since they really have no competition there.Ailuros said:besides what does Matrox care about wasting R&D $$$ anyway?
Their not so favourable financial situation I'd say.