The point being - it happened to me two months ago!
ATi's roadmap for 2004
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RussSchultz said:
I was being facetious, Russ.
Me to.John Reynolds said:
WaltC said:Just to play devil's advocate, it's always seemed to me that in relation to "bang for the buck" in 3d the high end is the place to be...As well, everybody wants a Rolls/Jag/Mercedes for the price of a Ford or Chevy, don't they?
Contrast the ~$200 9600XT with the ~$350-$399 9800P--you get better than 2x as much with the 9800P, aside from clockrate, of all of the things that matter much more than clockrate in 3d, it seems to me. Or contrast the ~ $449-499 9800XT with the $350-$399 9800P, and the extra $100 buys you a faster core clock & 2x the amount of onboard ram. But contrast the 9600XT with the 9800XT and it seems to me that "bang for the buck" is pretty darn close in both cases.
I think the common mistake is that most people think "bang for the buck" goes out of the window on the high end, but it doesn't--bang per buck should be fairly consistent, it's just the amount of bucks, and therefore bang, that differs. As long as they stick to the rule of "you get what you pay for" I'm happy...
Walt, granted that many whine about not getting the absolute best for a song, but that's not what I'm trying to say here. Let's try it this way, with each previous generation of cards, the range seems to have had far less of a gulf between levels. With R100, the layers were clockspeed and memory type with a fairly gentle slope from 64MB DDR to 32MB DDR to 64MB SDR to 32MB SDR with a slight clock/memory drop going from step 1 to 2 if I remember correctly. R200 had a similar type of slope if I remember except without the SDR steps. Now, we come to R3xx and R4xx and the slope becomes a cliff. Going from anything R300-based to anything RV300-based loses 4 pipes and 1/2 the bandwidth (except the 9500 Pro, which was a sweet product, though I can understand the price problem). Now, with the R4xx we have the same problem along with the rumor/fact the RV4xx will be PCIe only (forcing an upgrade to other components as well for older systems). It's not that the 9600 XT, for example isn't a nice card, but if you look at the difference between the MSRP and the Sapphire card (almost identical) online, you'll find that the market is saying this is a ~$150 card, not a $200 card. Same drops happened to 9600 Pro when it was released. What I'm wondering is: where is the middle step? Where is the 9800NP of the R4xx and will ATI allow it to live longer than a couple of months?
RussSchultz said:
Me, too.
Grammar nazi
dominikbehr
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RussSchultz said:Grammar nazi
You mean "spelling nazi" Russ?
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Semantic nazi
I was very headachy and sore-throaty when I wrote the explanation. However I stand by the conclusion that "will have come" was a better usage in his original post than any of the other suggestions.
Of course while I am in the US now, I was born in the UK (but educated in Canada).
Of course while I am in the US now, I was born in the UK (but educated in Canada).
Whatever turns you on, dude.Ailuros said:For the last couple of pages, it turned into quite an orgasmic thread.
wierdo
RussSchultz said:Whatever turns you on, dude.Ailuros said:For the last couple of pages, it turned into quite an orgasmic thread.
wierdo
That's weirdo. Jeez, engineers can't spell worth a damn.
bbbbbuuuhhht...i before e, except after c.
Meh, the autocorrect feature of Word has ruined me. Must turn it off, right now.
Meh, the autocorrect feature of Word has ruined me. Must turn it off, right now.
dominikbehr
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i want a compiler that does fuzzy matching of identifiers
and instead of telling me that i forgot a semicolon just inserts it and continues compilation
and i want the DWIM instruction too, or was it only supported on some old IBM big iron CPUs?
and instead of telling me that i forgot a semicolon just inserts it and continues compilation
and i want the DWIM instruction too, or was it only supported on some old IBM big iron CPUs?