Assassin's Creed - New Interview

[Jesus2006]

My eyes are really bad. I just got the PS3 version so I'll see if the FR is unplayable soon.

My eyes must be as bad. Honestly, i watched the gamersyde video now like 20 times on the PS3 and my HDTV (for some reason it plays very choppy on my PC) and framerate hickups are noticable for both versions, especially when he's jumping down.

What was obvious thoug were the shadows on the PS3 version looked a tad better, at least there was less shadow flickering visible (when camera rotates the tower, looked a little bit strange on the 360 version, so it might very well be a graphicala glitch).

 

[Neb]

Well on the CVG video it is easy to see the diffrence, and to make it easier just look in the cneter line of the video, focus on it and see the motion smoothness for left/right video. Atleast on this video it is very noticable.

Of course neither one runs 100% fluid but difference is there between both version in this video.

 

[betan]

PS3 side of the gamersyde video comparison was really miserable but that's really inconsistent with some trustworthy PS3 AC owners are saying.

Interestingly new Uncharted videos are also quite bad in terms of framerate.
Go figure.

 

[scooby_dooby]

Are we seriously still talking about the minor framerate discrepencies between the two versions...?

You guys are starting to worry me!

I say get your preferred platform & just enjoy the game.

For real.

 

[D3v0ur3r]

Are we seriously still talking about the minor framerate discrepencies between the two versions...?

You guys are starting to worry me!



For real.

Hey. You know there has to be something to complain about with every game that comes out. [sarcasm]Minor frame rate drops should clearly disqualify any thought of buying a game.[/sarcasm] Even though I have enjoyed my small time with this game & haven't noticed any frame rate drops.

Edit: Funny we quoted each other.

 

[Jaeyden]

Well, I'm hangin on to every word these guys have to say about the PS3 framerate. Seriously, it's a dealbreaker to me if I have to suffer through stutters and hic-ups. Call me picky or whatever, but considering that the game is just getting into the hands of eager buyers, I want as much feedback as I can get before I drop $60 on this game.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Are we seriously still talking about the minor framerate discrepencies between the two versions...?

I think it's the magnitude of framerate differences that people are bothered about. If they're as major as some sources seem to imply, you'll want to get the XB360 version, or maybe get something else instead. A lot depends on game interest and one's susceptibility to framerate. If you're eyeing two games pretty much equally and one is a dodgy framerate and the other is super-smooth, that might be the deciding factor on which to buy.

The depressing thing is no-one manages to do a proper study of such simple things. If they could, reviews would have a consensus and be informative, rather than very subjective, contradictory and confusing, not helping people make informed decisions whatsoever. Someone needs to produce a standardised review setup for all reviewers - a specific model of TV calibrated to both systems via all outputs, audio system, etc. - so that reviews don't get distracted with sundry variables!

 

[D3v0ur3r]

Well, I'm hangin on to every word these guys have to say about the PS3 framerate. Seriously, it's a dealbreaker to me if I have to suffer through stutters and hic-ups. Call me picky or whatever, but considering that the game is just getting into the hands of eager buyers, I want as much feedback as I can get before I drop $60 on this game.

Well that's sort of the ridiculous part of this so as far as I can see. I own the game now & have played through till I get killed by the master. So I guess that's the entire first mission/memory? I've not noticed any slow downs yet that I can say. Let alone any slowdowns that were flat out hard to overlook. This so far isn't anything like Two Worlds on the 360 with very noticeable slow downs.

Maybe I am not far enough yet but I've been in a large city already & it seems to run very well.

 

[DVFtaxman]

It's not so much being anal about framerate, but just wanting to get the best version (and subsequently the best experience) for the money!

 

[Jaeyden]

Well that's refreshing to know. There have been so many conflicting reports/videos/reviews about the PS3 version, that I'm really only inclined to believe my fellow B3D'ers. Like I said, I'm probably too picky but with only 2 games on my radar for the next few months...AC & Uncharted...I really want to make sure I don't regret buying this game. BTW...I only buy games new, never rent em. Want to make sure my money gets to the good people who poured their hard work into a game.

 

[scooby_dooby]

Well then get 360 version, it runs a little better.

I'd say anyone worried about the PS3 version, go rent it first...

 

[ErnstH]

PS3 side of the gamersyde video comparison was really miserable but that's really inconsistent with some trustworthy PS3 AC owners are saying.

Interestingly new Uncharted videos are also quite bad in terms of framerate.
Go figure.

Apparantly there was something wrong with the Gamersyde PS3 video, lowering the framerate. A new version will be put online soon.

 

[djskribbles]

Are we seriously still talking about the minor framerate discrepencies between the two versions...?

You guys are starting to worry me!



For real.

its beyond3d! people are going to spot every little difference between them.

watcing the CVG video, i did notice some tearing on the PS3 side and the framerate doesn't seem quite as smooth. however, the differences are so minimal that i agree that you should just get it on your preferred system.

 

[D3v0ur3r]

I wonder if the PS3 version may have an issue with 1080i vs. 720p. I am playing it in 720p & so far its running fine that I am seeing. Now maybe when I am much more familiar with the game I may notice frame rate drops, but I am not noticing it yet.

Anyone think maybe heat or just particular setups between the 360 & the PS3 by these reviewers may be effecting the reviews, or God forbid maybe just good old fashioned reviewer bias of a particular system?

 

[AlphaWolf]

Anyone think maybe heat or just particular setups between the 360 & the PS3 by these reviewers may be effecting the reviews, or God forbid maybe just good old fashioned reviewer bias of a particular system?

I think the differences are minor but controversy = hits. I don't know that reviewer bias is that big a part of it, reviewer bias seems to be more over gameplay style than a particular box it plays on.

 

[D3v0ur3r]

I am speaking with regards to the so called frame rate issue only.

 

[scooby_dooby]

Penny Arcade has a great article that may explain the polar opposites of reviews.

I think the biggest complaint I saw was that the missions become repetitive and boring. I actually didn't understand this complaint at all until just the other day. I had gotten an early copy of the game just like everyone else in the media but I was just playing it for fun. I'd cracked into it over the weekend and when I got into the office on Monday I started seeing these negative reviews. When I saw the low scores I was actually really upset and I wanted to talk about the game here on the site. I wanted to tell everyone that these guys were full of shit. However, since so many of the complaints were based on the ending I wanted to beat it first so I was sure I wasn't missing anything.

I attacked the game again but this time with the goal of beating it as fast as I could. I was determined to get a post up on Tuesday and I was pushing through the game as fast as I could. I went from finding every high perch in a district to only getting the ones I needed to advance the story. I stopped saving every citizen and avoided any unnecessary confrontations. The informer missions that I had really enjoyed before, I now avoided because I knew they took too long to complete. I did the bare minimum of missions to progress the story and anything that "hindered" my progress was frustrating. Monday night after skipping over another combat (something I used to really enjoy) I stopped myself. What the fuck was I doing?

I wasn't playing the game because I wanted to I was playing it because I had a deadline and I needed to beat it. I stopped immediately and decided I'd write about the game whenever I got around to beating it. I spent another day and a half with it and during that time I hunted for hidden flags and explored the cities again. I came in this morning and finally did beat it but I did it at my own pace and I enjoyed every part of it.

Imagine what an open ended sandbox title must look like to a reviewer especially right now. How many games do they have piling up on their desks? A game like Assassins creed isn't meant to be played under a deadline. You shouldn't be trying to beat it as fast as you can so you can move on to Mass Effect or Mario Galaxy. As soon as I gave myself a deadline all of a sudden I understood all their complaints. It was like a fucking Escher painting. I had put myself in their shoes and suddenly the landscape flipped and I could see games from their perspective. In the end I wasn't angry at them for their bad reviews. I actually just felt bad for them.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/

 

[Shifty Geezer]

That's another problem with professional reviews - writing and reviewing to deadlines. A real player can tackle the game at their own pace with suitable breaks if warranted that can help mitigate repetitions (which every game suffers to some degree). Really, reviews are kinda like lab tests. 'It's been proven in the laboratory that blah...blah...blah' and yet in the real world when it comes to buying goods or whatever, these lab results never really come through quite the same. They're like paper specs for consoles or football teams - big paper specs don't tell you how fun the console will be, or how many annoying issues the UI has. Big paper specs for football teams won't tell you if they'll win the season or not. Professional reviews are but a part of the understanding of a title.

 

[Jaeyden]

O.K. - So I went and bought it (PS3). I've played through the tutorial and the beginning of the first mission. So far the framerates have been fine, no real noticeable slow down. The tearing however is AWFUL.

 

[Gerry]

Penny Arcade has a great article that may explain the polar opposites of reviews.

That's a really good point they've made there.