Anyone still think Wii U will "win" "next gen"?
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How about Nintendo hiring a japanese hardware giant (Panasonic, Toshiba) with the job of actually listening to third parties, in order to make a relatively powerful console really fast using mostly off-the-shelf components?
Nintendo's electronics hardware division obviously isn't up to the task..
And the Panasonic Q did happen.
Nintendo's electronics hardware division obviously isn't up to the task..
And the Panasonic Q did happen.
I'm telling you Nintendo's biggest enemy is the GameCube. They will look back at that and think "power gets us nowhere" forever.
The premium doesn't get down to $250 without losing a ton of money because of the tablet. It would be surprised if it goes down that low. Stubbornness will keep Nintendo from making any kind of deep discounts until at least the first round of top-quality software is released.
Samsung.Maybe Apple should buy them instead.
Well close to unthinkable for what seems to be a company still deeply rooted in traditions but for its handhelds (and soon possibly a home console), if they want the best of money can buy for cheap I think it is tough to pass on Chinese integrators.
Imagine the situation you give one Chinese team and one Nintendo team the same specification (I mean list of requirements for the product) and watch the result and how long it takes them to get there. I think we all know how that would turn, ugly. Pretty muc h I would expect the Chinese team to not lose a single second over-thinking and they would have gone straight for a dual A9 + powerVR solution matching their production budget and that is it, I think their time to the market /finished product would be less than half the Nintendo team one.
When I look at what the like as Allwinner (and other Chinese integrators) are doing, the 3DS looks really bad, and actually the PSV doesn't look that good either.
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I dont know if it's really possible for Western companies to buy major Japanese ones. At least it never happens.
I remember MS claimed they considered buying Ninty at one time, before 2001 XB.
If we presume the XB business is at least altogether break even by now, there's no point in MS having spent a dime on Nintendo in the past. They accomplished the same objective (major living room/console presence) with Xbox for "free".
And also I dont think MS would have a clue what to do with Nintendo's IP anyway.
Hell right now at this point I'd say Nintendo has shockingly little of value to anybody but themselves.
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What's sad is that Nintendo's stock is so low that its market cap is the equivalent to its cash balance. In other words, it's IP is essentially worth nothing. Granted, if someone tried to buy them, the value would shoot up, but I still find that unlikely. At most, they'll retreat from traditional consoles and switch to mobile console which can easily be wirelessly displayed on a TV (and with protocols like Miracast, that's not too far fetched). We might also see 400GFLOP GPUs in mobile devices by the time they launch a new handheld in 2017-2018, which would be about Wii U level. And really the Wii U is the 3DS for the home. Makes sense no?
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I'm pretty sure their actual market cap is $15 billion, so this isn't true.
So $15 billion will get you $8 billion in cash + assets + IPs?
Their assets + IPs might not be worth $7 billion.
I just think if MS is serious about owning the casual market, they could do a lot worse that having Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong helping them out...
So $15 billion will get you $8 billion in cash + assets + IPs?
Their assets + IPs might not be worth $7 billion.
I just think if MS is serious about owning the casual market, they could do a lot worse that having Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong helping them out...
The corporate culture clash of MS buying Nintendo would be so monumental that it would make matter/antimatter collisions look tame in comparison. I don't think anything good would come out of such a deal, and I'm pretty sure any takeover bid would be treated as hostile and be very very expensive for MS, whom is still smarting financially from the failed takeover of Rare.
It would take decades for them to earn back what they spent, if they ever do.
It would take decades for them to earn back what they spent, if they ever do.
Total world wild sales puts Wii U under 3.5 million. Sales world wide over the past 3 months at 390K.
Why not a merger between Sony and Nintendo? Bring Nitnendo IP to Sony branded handhelds and PlayStation Mobile. If the only place to play Mario et al is on a VitaDS or mobile PSM certified handset, or Nintendo SmartPhuun, that'd do wonders as a USP to drive adoption in a very competitive marketplace. It'd also keep the business in Japan which I presume would be preferred. So if Nintendo are to give up, that makes most sense to me. Give Nintendo control over the mobile software division, with a PSM engine on PS4 allowing cross-device compatibility, and allow Nintendo to choose the fancy gimmick hardware they want in the next console which Sony will pair with a decent spec machine and craft something with more consumer allure than a Fisher Price toy.
(That's a bit rude, but let's be honest, the WuuPad looks completely out of place alongside iPads and Xperia Z's and the fashion of thin, glossy devices. Nintendo need some suave and sophistication).Why not a merger between Sony and Nintendo? Bring Nitnendo IP to Sony branded handhelds and PlayStation Mobile. If the only place to play Mario et al is on a VitaDS or mobile PSM certified handset, or Nintendo SmartPhuun, that'd do wonders as a USP to drive adoption in a very competitive marketplace. It'd also keep the business in Japan which I presume would be preferred. So if Nintendo are to give up, that makes most sense to me. Give Nintendo control over the mobile software division, with a PSM engine on PS4 allowing cross-device compatibility, and allow Nintendo to choose the fancy gimmick hardware they want in the next console which Sony will pair with a decent spec machine and craft something with more consumer allure than a Fisher Price toy.
Stubbornness would keep an actual merger from happening. Besides, their handheld division is in far better shape than Sony's. That's a serious clash right there.
Nintendo would rather be a pure mobile handheld company than sell out, and that's assuming the situation ever got that dire financially.
Ninty are amazing. Yeah people can say what they will about Nintendo, they haven't posted a loss since 1998 or so. They say the Nintendo 64 was an advanced machine for its time and possibly that they took a small loss on the hardware units but I don't remember/have the figures as I wasn't into consoles back then.
The fact that Nintendo are still around is amazing business. With what many consider a failure (Gamecube), they still didn't lose money! This tells us they are the most profitable game company around.
Nintendo's only enemies are Iwatta and themselves. Also now that IOs support gamepads that's more competition for the handheld market, which is Nintendo's strong point now.
Nintendo posted a loss last and this year: http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4260062/nintendo-2012-earnings
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