AMD RDNA4 Architecture Speculation
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DavidGraham
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My only problem is this:
The highest AMD FSR4 option (9070XT) is going to be slower than the highest FSR3 option (7900XTX). This creates confusing dynamics for high end AMD buyers. Other than that I am all for AMD going with a clean break with FSR4.
My only problem is this:
The highest AMD FSR4 option (9070XT) is going to be slower than the highest FSR3 option (7900XTX). This creates confusing dynamics for high end AMD buyers. Other than that I am all for AMD going with a clean break with FSR4.
Isn’t the 7900XTX EOL? It’s not really a buying option going forward.
DegustatoR
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I think we've heard about GRE only being EOL so far.
Obviously the new GPU's will be a chunk slower than the better Navi 31 GPU's in normal performance benching and all, but if FSR4 is a worthwhile leap over FSR2 in image quality, could you potentially achieve a similar image quality as one of those Navi 31 GPU's(using FSR2) with similar performance? Improving reconstruction techniques is essentially the equivalent of a performance boost because you can (theoretically) achieve a target image quality with a lower resolution than before.My only problem is this:
The highest AMD FSR4 option (9070XT) is going to be slower than the highest FSR3 option (7900XTX). This creates confusing dynamics for high end AMD buyers. Other than that I am all for AMD going with a clean break with FSR4.
So like, with a 7900XTX, you're using FSR2 Quality, but perhaps a 9070 with FSR4 Balanced looks as good? That negates a lot of the 7900XTX's raw performance advantage because it's having to render a higher resolution.
That said, going by PSSR, I'm not expecting it to be some completely linear upgrade, and more 'better overall, but different'. Bah, it's so annoying they didn't show anything.
Sega_Model_4
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AMD Debuts Radeon RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 Powered by RDNA 4, and FSR 4
AMD at the 2025 International CES announced the Radeon RX 9070 XT and Radeon RX 9070 desktop performance-segment graphics cards. These will be the face of AMD's next generation of gaming graphics products, and will be powered by the new RDNA 4 graphics architecture. AMD hopes to launch both...
DavidGraham
Veteran
That's very logical indeed. However, reviewers and buyers should also apply the same logic with DLSS vs FSR comparisons. A 4080 with DLSS Performance should be compared to a 7900XTX running at native FSR or FSR Quality.
What would be the upgrade path for a 7900XTX owner?
Sega_Model_4
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Ian Cutress was invited to an AMD post-conference conversation and in short, AMD wants to do an event just for RDNA 4, to talk about ray tracing and FSR 4, with demonstrations of the technologies.
DegustatoR
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Why do a press briefing now then? This still looks like a last minute change of plans. Wonder what is the reason.Ian Cutress was invited to an AMD post-conference conversation and in short, AMD wants to do an event just for RDNA 4, to talk about ray tracing and FSR 4, with demonstrations of the technologies.
Easy. 5070 Ti or 5080 or keep enjoying your 7900XTX.
DavidGraham
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That wall of text could be summarized into a single line: we are waiting on NVIDIA's pricing and see where we go from there!
Exactly! The only path forward for such a buyer is NVIDIA, which is why I said AMD marketing has a tough job convincing such buyer to stick with AMD.
Should have announced that and specified the date then. They could have shown a teaser of it, and at least announced the GPU lineup. They could have then stated "Hey, we'll have a Radeon dedicated press conference in the near future, stay tuned!" but as it was here today.. it just is obvious they want to see what Nvidia prices their GPUs at.. instead of charting their own course.. as usual.Ian Cutress was invited to an AMD post-conference conversation and in short, AMD wants to do an event just for RDNA 4, to talk about ray tracing and FSR 4, with demonstrations of the technologies.
Ian Cutress was invited to an AMD post-conference conversation and in short, AMD wants to do an event just for RDNA 4, to talk about ray tracing and FSR 4, with demonstrations of the technologies.
This was a great read. It definitely softened the blow for me from the horrible CES coverage. It’s 100% obvious from those answers that they’re waiting for Nvidia to make the first move on pricing.
This bit was interesting. If you were to listen to lots of loud voices around the internet you would be led to believe that gamers don’t care about RT and they hate upscaling.
DegustatoR
Legend
The pricing wasn't in the press briefing though which means that it likely wouldn't have been shown in live stream either.
It's also arguably easier to omit just the pricing (if it was there) instead of cutting the whole RDNA4 segment.
This just seems weird. Maybe the dedicated event isn't that far off?
Sega_Model_4
Newcomer
AMD showed the 9950X3D and didn't say the price. They could have done the same with GPUs.
arandomguy
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They also might not have an idea of where to position the GPUs relative to Nvidia's upcoming competition. It's been discussed elsewhere but there is a lot of unknowns and uncertainity about what Blackwell will actually bring.
With the 9950X3D you saw them confidently state it's positoning against Intel.
With the 9950X3D you saw them confidently state it's positoning against Intel.
There's a reason why companies often compare new products to couple gens down, people upgrading every gen is a small group
I’m on a 4 year cycle. Just about getting to the point where my 3090 is struggling with some titles. It helps a lot that I’m usually 6-8 years behind on game releases.
Maybe I’m misinterpreting this but how is your 3090 struggling with 6-8 year old titles?