Seems to be a lot of doom and gloom around this 1536 sp thing and I agree, AMD's supposed "small die strategy" never struck me as long term viable. People care about the most powerful card and that's it. AMD aimed too low.
All that said, if 6970 is 90 or 95% as fast as 580 with a much smaller die and lower TDP and lower price, it still works out to a nice win really for AMD despite all this doom and gloom. They will be in the same position they have been in, or better. If it's 85%, I guess that could still be argued as a win, depending, but it will more represent parity with the current generation.
It almost seems like the low TDP is aimed at enabling a dual chip 6990, which then could hold the top spot for a really long time like 5970 did.
All that said, it will be disappointing if AMD doesn't grab the top single GPU spot as it looked like they were about to do, for the first time in ages.
459,00 € PALIT GeForce GTX 580What's the going price for a 580 GTX in France?
It's $529 USD here.
We have the 6970 coming in at 496 euros which would be mighty pricey if we use a straight $->euro conversion ($650 USD).
The 580 GTX is starting to look mighty sweet.
First prices for France seems to be 379€ and 479€ which are around the GTX 570 and 580 prices...
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I'm hoping for eyefinity support and the game is coming out in 2011 , i'm sure it will have a dx 11 path , even if its not as demanding as other dx 11 paths. LOTRO a 5 year old game with its new dx 11 path is pretty demanding.
HD 6970 (479€) will be slower than a GTX 580 (446€) ?
I'm hoping for eyefinity support and the game is coming out in 2011 , i'm sure it will have a dx 11 path , even if its not as demanding as other dx 11 paths. LOTRO a 5 year old game with its new dx 11 path is pretty demanding.
CES?eh whatever life is too short to worry about SPs and performance. I'm going to sleep wake me when 2x Cayman are released
I remember, but it ain't gonna change...Remember the time before HD 6870 ? how we all argued whether ALU count was 800 or 960 or 1120 or 1280 ? with several sites saying 960 or 1280 , and then the truth got revealed two days or so before launch ? I think we are in the same situation here .
That won't happen again. nVidia will have their own dual GTX560/GTX570 card to take the high end .It almost seems like the low TDP is aimed at enabling a dual chip 6990, which then could hold the top spot for a really long time like 5970 did.
That won't happen again. nVidia will have their own dual GTX560/GTX570 card to take the high end .
That won't happen again. nVidia will have their own dual GTX560/GTX570 card to take the high end .
March 25th 2010 qualifies as "ages" ago!? Man, I'm getting old...All that said, it will be disappointing if AMD doesn't grab the top single GPU spot as it looked like they were about to do, for the first time in ages.
If 6990 is dual 6790 and 6790 is 10% under 580 GTX then 6990 won't be "beatable" for the foreseeable future as a dual 580 GTX wouldn't be reasonable.
BTW, how is Crossfire these days? Can a dual card (with the normal compatibility and stability issues) really be compared with a single-gpu card (typically more stable and compatible)?
If the answer is yes...
If 6990 is dual 6790 and 6790 is 10% under 580 GTX then 6990 won't be "beatable" for the foreseeable future as a dual 580 GTX wouldn't be reasonable.
BTW, how is Crossfire these days? Can a dual card (with the normal compatibility and stability issues) really be compared with a single-gpu card (typically more stable and compatible)?
If the answer is yes...
I think a dual GTX570 would be doable, but it would be more like dual GTX569 or something, with 2 SMs disabled for 14/16 on each card and a total of 896 SPs, it would be competitive with 6990. Definitely. If you take around 10% off the GTX470 power consumption and multiply by 2 you would get the power consumption, and it would be possible. Plus with just 14/16 active SMs Nvidia could bin for lower temps.
March 25th 2010 qualifies as "ages" ago!? Man, I'm getting old...