AMD: R9xx Speculation
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chavvdarrr
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we also expect 6970 to be bigger than 5870, while 580 is same size as 480.
So from die size POV the $$$/performance per mm2 advantage could be less if any.
It seems it will be all the same again
6950< 570 < 6970 < 580
And dualheaded hydras at the "halo" pr-top.
DavidGraham
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I think you can't compare two different charts , settings like resolution is changed , cards changed , even test scenes could have changed .
3D Mark 11 results :
Obviously tessellation power is a big factor in the score , as evident by the GTX 465 beating GTX 460 by a decent margain .
PSU-failure
Newcomer
Plain black bars prolongation tend to direct me to the same conclusion.Please explainwhy a fake?
By the way, with a "December 2010" slide, they could have used the GTX580 as a reference.
Please explain
use the 6870 pdf to forge the right one, pls notice the black column on the background, also he's so lazy to change the testing items sequencies and settings.
I guess you guys with TN monitors just doesn't notice..
Better now?
So what does that mean? A Doctored image, right?
DavidGraham
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Good catch
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It's not just about TN displays, I'm using one and could easily see the dark bars in originalI guess you guys with TN monitors just doesn't notice..
Better now?
And yes, looks like it's photoshopped from the 6870/460 slide as mao referenced.
NathansFortune
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I'm not questioning that the picture posted is a fake, but really? If 6970 isn't competitive with GTX580 then it would make sense to compare with GTX480. Nvidia would definitely do it, in fact they have done it in the past!
As far as I can tell the 6970 is not going to be as competitive as ATi hoped, and this is the reason for all the delays. The last time an ATi product was delayed like this (and engineering samples held back etc...) R600 turned out to be a steaming pile. This half gen is really starting to feel like the G80 gen all over again, Nvidia making a decent product to the general surprise of most people, and ATi being lttp with an underwhelming board.
Don't get me wrong, if 6970 is a good 10-15% ahead of GTX580 then I will happily eat my well deserved crow, but right now, I can't see it, thus my reasoning behind ATi using GTX480 as a benchmark as opposed to 580.
NathansFortune
Regular
Indeed. I have a TN display on my work computer, but I could see them, not as clearly as the photoshopped one, but they were still there...
Word, quit hatin' on TN panels
DavidGraham
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In most GTX 570 reviews , almost all reviewers confirmed seeing HD 69xx before the end of this year , no reason to worry about R600 fiasco happening all over again .
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
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Eh? Nvidia finally get a "b" revision out the door so that they can sell in small quantities what they promised last year, and most people are generally surprised? I don't think so. There's no reason to think AMD is surprised either, and hasn't factored that in. And they still have Antillies at the high end whilst making smaller, cheaper chips that keep kicking Nvidia in the nuts. I don't see this round being any different just because ATI want to spend a couple of weeks clearing old inventory.
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