AMD netbooks

If you don't mind GMA 4500MHD (AFAIK not too big a step down from RS780's IGP), the best $400 ultraportable seems to be the Dell Inspiron 11z. It's got a Celeron M 723, which I think is a 1.2 GHz Core 2 Solo with 1M cache and should be significantly faster than an Atom.

Personally, I'm waiting for the Acer Timeline 3810TG: 13.3" notebook with C2D, discrete 4330 GPU, and 7+ hours of battery life in a 3.5 lbs package. It's already for sale outside the US, so hopefully it'll get here soon for under $800.
 
On a whim, I picked up one of those Packard Bell/Gateway (Acer) machines mentioned in the OP after seeing it on sale (~€215+VAT). Overall, apart from some niggles; it is a nice little system for the money. In terms of scale it is certainly as size up from the Eee 900, but I was surprised that overall it’s not that much bigger than a 1000H. Not a bad keyboard, and I love the high(er) resolution screen.

Drawbacks include:
-Vista Home Basic. I think both XP (for less bloat/overhead and eking out a bit more performance) and Windows 7 (for an overall sleeker experience) would be better choices (but given the timing of things, I guess that’s why it was so cheap).
-No PowerNow out of the box, but RMClock to the rescue (and the CPU undervolts a bit too).
-“Too fast” RAM using quite loose 333 MHz SPD timings when it would could be running tighter considering the actual frequency is only 240 MHz at 1.2 GHz (and since AMD doesn’t officially ship processors this slow, there’s no 4 CPU/RAM divider).

Speedwise it certainly feels snappier for everyday productivity and browsing use than both the Eee 900 (Celeron M 353 @ 900 MHz) and an Eee 1000H (Atom N270 @ 1.68 GHz when plugged in) I’ve got to compare with. The Atom tends to equal it in multithreaded synthetic benchmarks, though; but it is also the slowest of the three in single threaded apps.

I haven’t had much quality time with any Atom Z520 systems, but given the clock speed of those I’d say the Athlon is significantly faster for anything but HD decode. Of course, there are also the Celeron M 723/Core 2 Solo SU3x00 ones around for netbook-like 11.6” machines that are faster, but those start at more than twice what I paid for this one.

The IGP is also a noticeable step up from the GMA 950, but it seems hampered by the slow RAM situation and the lack of vertex shaders (dropping the core clock from 300 to 110 MHz via PowerPlay has a relatively minor impact on performance). As I expected, there was no DXVA for HD content, yet some lowish bitrate 720P WMA clips (WMP11) and Apple 720P movie trailers (MPC-HC) managed to play without frame drops (although just barely).

Battery life (48Whr) is decent but not great. Watching a movie with wireless on, while intermittently checking a couple of web pages and doing smaller installs for a couple of hours, yielded a discharge rate of ~13W. Doing pretty much nothing besides typing with a dimmed screen was ~10W and running full tilt double that.

Given what’s in there (i.e. that CPU is *huge*), I understand why AMD haven’t been more aggressive in going after this market. Yet at the same time it’s also almost a well rounded platform. Hopefully their upcoming 45nm CPUs + RS780E arrive soon and comes within striking distance of Intel’s CULV offerings in terms of performance. Cost and full load power consumption should certainly improve for them, so I’m not quite as pessimistic on AMDs behalf as I was before trying this system. Choice is good, so I’m rooting for them to pull out something competitive.
 
I ordered a hp mini 311 its a atom 1.66ghz with 3 gigs of ram and an ion (9800 mobile)cost me $580. Ran like crap but it was kidna small. My friend picked up the hp dm3 which is an ultra portable, he has the radeon 3200 with an amd neo x2 1.6ghz . It runs like a dream. So I ordered one , it was $660 with 3 gigs of ram with 250gigs and a radeon 4330 (got the upgrade for $150) . THe hp dm3z is tiny also and has 13.3 inch screen.
 
I ordered a hp mini 311 its a atom 1.66ghz with 3 gigs of ram and an ion (9800 mobile)cost me $580. Ran like crap but it was kidna small. My friend picked up the hp dm3 which is an ultra portable, he has the radeon 3200 with an amd neo x2 1.6ghz . It runs like a dream. So I ordered one , it was $660 with 3 gigs of ram with 250gigs and a radeon 4330 (got the upgrade for $150) . THe hp dm3z is tiny also and has 13.3 inch screen.

ion is 9400, not 9800 mobile
 
the 9400 still looks like a great GPU for a netbook.. except the Atom won't run modern games, and will still hold it back in older ones (such as a Quake 3 powered game).

thus it looks like a solution looking for problem. One of the suggested laptop, the core2solo one with GMA 4500 graphics has a worse GPU, but is better at everything else.. and actually probably better at gaming. plus I guess its CPU can decode common 720p h264 on its own.

The Atom+ION platform looks interesting for :
- running a DX9/DX10 game designed for a CPU power of year 2001
- carrying iso images of blu-rays on a netbook, to play back on a 1080p projector outside your home
 
street fighter 4 was playable at 20fps everything low at native res of 1024x768 i believe.

RE5 was not playable and would get 11fps at native res with everything low.
 
Yeah Atom is a gimpy CPU but it won't stop you from playing lots of games through like 2004 or so if it has something like that GF9400 behind it. What more do you want from a mini machine anyway? :)

The netbooks have a really hard time getting rid of heat so you don't want more power hungry hardware in these things. I have an EeePC 900 which is a GMA 900 + Celeron M 900MHz and in 3D games it becomes quite uncomfortable IMO.

Step up to something in the 15" size or bigger if you want more game power. The discrete GPUs need better cooling and that becomes much easier when in that size range.
 
my 13inch dm3z with the dual core athlon and hd 4330 works fine , heat gets a little to much to stay on your lap but then again i can't play on my lap anyway. Who can even do that...

I bought these little pegg feet for the notebook also to give it more room under it.
 
Is that a middle click above the touchpad?

(better seen on that bigger thinkpad)
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/23/lenovo-thinkpad-t400s-hands-on-and-impressions/

middle-click is a feature I miss on laptops, ctrl-clicking is boring and then you still miss some of the fonctionality (such as middle scrolling in many apps or paste the X11 clipboard)
guess what, I receive my netbook (first laptop ever tomorrow), which comes with an ubuntu derivate. I'll try to hack in third mouse button in the place of the "windows properties" key if that's possible.
 
Looks like the typical ThinkPad setup, yes. [pic] It can be configured as a 'standard' middle button, but by default it serves as a 'scroll lock' for the trackpoint. My finger dexterity isn't quite good enough to get to grips with that combination as a middle button for anything that requires maneuvers on the pad at the same time.
 
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