cheapchips
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So cynical. Running at really low frequencies is custom!
Nintendo Switch 2
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It's way too expensive for my tastes, but I don't get why it's more expensive in Europe than in the USA.
In one country, you have a 25% tax, a weaker dollar, and physical games at 80$; in Europe, there are lower taxes, but the games are 90€.
It would have been a scam even if it were 80 and 80, because at the moment 80$ equals 72€, and the dollar is poised to go even lower.
In one country, you have a 25% tax, a weaker dollar, and physical games at 80$; in Europe, there are lower taxes, but the games are 90€.
It would have been a scam even if it were 80 and 80, because at the moment 80$ equals 72€, and the dollar is poised to go even lower.
I don't think you're counting tax right. Prices do not include tax for US but do for EU. The US price doesn't have sales tax, which varies by State (and county). In Europe, you do have sales/VAT on RRPs at typically 20%.
So an $80 RRP for a game in California will cost you to buy anywhere between $85.80 if bought in Mono County and $89 if bought in Los Angeles County.
An €80 game bought in Belgium will cost you €80 and the same game bought in Portugal will cost you €80. These prices include VAT of 21% and 23% respectively.
As such, prices excluding VAT would be €63.20 and €61.60.
At current exchange rates, that's $69.47 and $67.71 respectively.
TBH this looks to me like a notable hike for US prices which typically have tracked lower than EU.
699AUD inclusive of our GST (which is a broad base consumption tax like VAT, at a 10 percent rate), which is about what I expected. Might be a little better than EU pricing - the AUD is trading at about 0.63 USD.
Personally, I was not very excited with the launch and launch window lineup (still preorder admittedly). That was the main note for me - even compared to 3DS, I was actually excited for Pilotwings Resort and purchased at launch.
Personally, I was not very excited with the launch and launch window lineup (still preorder admittedly). That was the main note for me - even compared to 3DS, I was actually excited for Pilotwings Resort and purchased at launch.
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Only 10% VAT helps lower the Aus price.
On the matter of price, presumably these days we are looking at no price reductions at all for the life of the machine. Maybe even a price increase in some years?!
On the matter of price, presumably these days we are looking at no price reductions at all for the life of the machine. Maybe even a price increase in some years?!
Tegra-based products don't officially support DLSS and if you want a possible explanation, depending on how pared back their GPU configuration is their graphics performance can be potentially upto ~4-5x slower compared the slowest desktop RTX graphics card. DLSS frametime cost scales with output resolution too ...
Hmmm that would be crazy if we discussed DLSS on Switch 2 for years and then it winds up not having it? Lol so do we have confirmation that Switch 2 even has Tensor cores?
That's quite significant in terms of rendering power and part of the discussion how it'd scale up over Switch 1. The videos were extremely clean - are we to take them at face value, or were these 'representative'? Is Nintendo's own upscaling better than Sony's, AMDs, and everyone else's?
@Bold I assume that they're showing their best presentation in "docked mode" and the only comparable reference points we have so far are Elden Ring (1080p/30hz), FFVIIR/Intergrade (1080p/30hz), and CP2077 (dynamic 540-1080p/30hz so lower floor/higher ceiling than PS4 render res at 720-900p) which puts them solidly in the performance profile of the original PS4 console ...
Early DF analysis hints that there's no good evidence to believe DLSS is in play so Nintendo's own titles probably appears to be just less graphically advanced than last-gen fidelity targets for AAA games and will instead opt for higher render resolutions ...
GhostofWar
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No I can't remember any times when we weren't ridden hard and put away wet down here with tech prices. Even 15 years ago or whenever it was when the dollar hit parity with the usd prices here stayed up and you could buy games from other regions or import hardware for 30% cheaper or more.
From what they have shown of third party games, it seems that as long as PS5 and Series has a 60 fps mode (and that's pretty much all games), it's doable to make a Switch 2 version without completely destroying the graphics. DLSS support also got confirmed by an IGN interview, but maybe the first batch of games will not employ it.
If 30 fps only games start to come out, we are back to difficult ports like with the Switch.
If 30 fps only games start to come out, we are back to difficult ports like with the Switch.
Nvidia talks about the Switch 2 hardware:
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/ninte...up-with-nvidia-ai-powered-dlss-and-4k-gaming/
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/ninte...up-with-nvidia-ai-powered-dlss-and-4k-gaming/
DavidGraham
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Nope, Nintendo just confirmed Switch 2 supports DLSS and will use it, as well as ray tracing.
Interesting that GameChat uses the Tensor cores. I wonder if Developers will have to choose between enabling video GameChat and DLSS or other Tensor functions?
Also it's nice this uses GSYNC on the internal display and not just standard VRR.
Perhaps mostly in 'theory' but "real practice" looks awfully different with the footages so far ...
