AMD RDNA4 potential product value
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You are getting near 5070ti performance in a single metric of performance. This metric was a much larger percentage of the pie in RDNA 2 days, but has continued to decrease as other areas become more heavily utilized. Also, it hasn't always been -$50. Different perf tiers would have different savings amounts.
One case for the 9070 at MSRP is mine (unfortunately). The only relatively modern PC I have that could take a modern GPU upgrade is in a Micro ATX case that can only accommodate a smaller card. I'd happily spend the extra $50 MSRP if I could get a 9070xt that would fit in my case, but since I can't the smaller card and lower TDP are selling points.
It doesn't feel good, but it is what it is.
It doesn't feel good, but it is what it is.
One case for the 9070 at MSRP is mine (unfortunately). The only relatively modern PC I have that could take a modern GPU upgrade is in a Micro ATX case that can only accommodate a smaller card. I'd happily spend the extra $50 MSRP if I could get a 9070xt that would fit in my case, but since I can't the smaller card and lower TDP are selling points.
It doesn't feel good, but it is what it is.
Did the Powercolor 9070XT Reaper not fit? It's proper 2 slot (width and height) and locally for me was the cheapest card by some margin. I didn't buy it because I wanted something a bit larger and quieter.
I managed to nab a Sapphire Pulse 9070XT for a not so great $1299 AUD. I was looking for a Powercolor Hellhound for $1239 but it sold quick at all 3 stores I was on. I could not consider the Powercolor Reddevil or any XFX models for the same $1299 because they're too big for my case. $1299AUD is not great, but Gigabyte and ASUS models started at $1349 and went up to $1449 so that's a hell of a lot worse. I honestly would prefer Sapphire to either of them, even if it's the Pulse model. This time around their Pulse model has a nicely mid sized cooler anyway, should be quiet enough.
Local MSRP of 5070ti here is $1509 and those models are obviously long gone, with the cheapest right now being $1899 for a Gigabyte windforce (should be MSRP model). So $600 more is a no deal. A 5070ti would be nice as it can do some path tracing and has better upscaling/reflex support but that's just too much money. $1299 for a card that will hopefully last me 2 years is ok enough.
arandomguy
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Had a 2060 Super for the equivalent of $340 at the end of 2019, pass on it as I would have to replace my case. Covid and then crypto shock in 2020, I decided to look into a new case.
Had a 4060ti 16GB For $370 at the end of the 2023, passed on that because it couldn't fit my existing case. I decided to look into a new case.
I still have not replaced my case
GhostofWar
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There has been 5070ti's for 1630, I actually got one this week from scorptec. I had to jump on it before reviews of the 9070xt so was bit of a gamble but everything panned out about where I expected so is what it is. I gave it to my soon to be brother in law yesterday, I think his eyes lit up more over that than if I had gone with a stripper instead lol.
So I've ordered a Sapphire Nitro + 9070XT; that came to £707.94 after VAT and Delivery. I think it will be a worthy swap for the XFX 6900XT Merc I'm using at the moment.
It makes sense that Steve and other tubers are focusing on the consumer centric viewpoint on wanting accurate (and lower) prices but they really should acknowledge the fact that these cards are flying off shelves even at 40% markup. So consumers are also enabling this pricing. Hopefully he revisits this in a few months. If these prices persist and sales don’t fall off a cliff then the problem is buyers not sellers.
Unlucky. Although nowhere near as bad I do feel your pain. My ATX case will only take 338mm and a lot of cards are either quite small < 300mm to the extent that they would surely be louder than larger cards or very large at >340mm. Luckily for me Sapphire seem to be sticking to 320-330mm for the time being.Would you believe 4mm too long? Might be close enough to cram it in, but...
My new 9070XT arrived and it was a fairly easy swap for the 6900XT, needed an additional power lead feeding from the PSU and it's a 3 slot as opposed to the 2 slot the 6900 was. But it is ~1cm shorter.
So far, and I've run Cyberpunk, Avowed, The First Decendant, Bright Memory: Infinite just to test out the improvement in Ray Tracing speed and I more than pleasantly surprised. Cyberpunk is even playable with Path Tracing on now ~60fps as opposed to the 5-6fps I got with the 6900XT.
Price wise there is no real comparison, I bought my 6900XT during Covid when scalping was killing value so it cost me ~£999 compared to the £700 I've paid for hte 9070XT which is a much better all round card for the price. I think in pure raster the 6900Xt might still have an edge though which is probably the weakest point of this generation.
So far, and I've run Cyberpunk, Avowed, The First Decendant, Bright Memory: Infinite just to test out the improvement in Ray Tracing speed and I more than pleasantly surprised. Cyberpunk is even playable with Path Tracing on now ~60fps as opposed to the 5-6fps I got with the 6900XT.
Price wise there is no real comparison, I bought my 6900XT during Covid when scalping was killing value so it cost me ~£999 compared to the £700 I've paid for hte 9070XT which is a much better all round card for the price. I think in pure raster the 6900Xt might still have an edge though which is probably the weakest point of this generation.
raytracingfan
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Is it actually delivering lower FPS than the 6900 XT in raster-only titles for you? That would be surprising, because according to benchmarks the 9070 XT beats the 7900 XT in raster, which in turn beats the 6900 XT.
My 9070 OC just came today. Paid £525, wanted XT but missed out. Some how OC at non OC msrp price.
Bought on release day, Friday they said would be yet another week and gave other options. Then when I never responded was sent out next day. Think they wanted me to cancel so they could sell at new price.
Been waiting on ARC B770 for well over a year as my R580 been faulty but as Intel has still been quiet about anything in the 7XX class needed to get something at reasonable price. If I waited would've been lot more with no signs of it going down any time soon if ever.
Right now same card is £640, white is £630
Don't really get to play much so this will easily do me for a very long time.
FSR4 looks to be good enough.
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I should have clarified that it feels slower (I forgot to run any benchmarks before I swapped it out), there seems to be more frame pacing issues than with the 6900XT but that might just be me. In titles with ray tracing enabled there is no competition. The 9070xt is simply miles ahead.
I had a similar thing when I ordered my xt version. No communication and no update on delivery - but the same card showed up as in stock and then out of stock a couple of time on the site. The paranoid part of me was thinking that they were just waiting for me to contact them so they could say there's been a problem with my order and I have to re-order at the latest price.My 9070 OC just came today. Paid £525, wanted XT but missed out. Some how OC at non OC msrp price.
Bought on release day, Friday they said would be yet another week and gave other options. Then when I never responded was sent out next day. Think they wanted me to cancel so they could sell at new price.
Been waiting on ARC B770 for well over a year as my R580 been faulty but as Intel has still been quiet about anything in the 7XX class needed to get something at reasonable price. If I waited would've been lot more with no signs of it going down any time soon if ever.
Right now same card is £640, white is £630
Don't really get to play much so this will easily do me for a very long time.
FSR4 looks to be good enough.
Wonder if it's CPU now, what you running?
Does it still feel frame pacy if you run it at same settings as before.
My CPU is a 5900X paired with 64GB (3600MHz) DDR4. But I think I figured out what the issue with frame pacing was. I didn't run DDU after installing the card to have a clean driver install as, both cards using Adrenalin, I didn't think it would be necessary. After rectifying that I can say that the pacing issues have disappeared.
**edit - I also just installed Optiscaler in Cyberpunk and at Utra Settings with Ray Tracing I am getting an average of 208fps
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I'm also playing Cyberpunk on my 9070xt using optiscaler to get fsr4. Ultra settings and ultra ray tracing at 4k using performance upscaling and frame gen gets me average 130fps. Pretty good and I'm very pleased with the IQ despite the internal res being 1080p and using frame gen. I'm a very picky person visually and there are almost no issues I can spot. Path tracing I can get 60fps average but since base fps is 30 I'm not a fan. Psycho RT doesn't seem worth it either, ultra looks just as good to me.
I also upgraded from a 6900xt but since I had a sapphire nitro+ model 6900xt have gone from 2x 8pin + 1x 6pin to just 2x 8pin power connectors. It's definitely cooler and quieter. Didn't run DDU to remove old drivers but did delete steams shader cache files for any installed games and haven't noticed any stuttering.
I also upgraded from a 6900xt but since I had a sapphire nitro+ model 6900xt have gone from 2x 8pin + 1x 6pin to just 2x 8pin power connectors. It's definitely cooler and quieter. Didn't run DDU to remove old drivers but did delete steams shader cache files for any installed games and haven't noticed any stuttering.
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