PS4 download speed?
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I guess its the only justification for why Sony hates everyone so much.
So why settle and accept mediocrity? I don't know why people are so content to just settle for no improvement. I understand the congested traffic but telling someone to just not want even a modicum of improvement kind of goes against wanting any technological progress. Maybe such complaints will inspire infrastructure improvements?
Look at what Elon Musk is doing, he complained about gasoline cars and expensive space travel and made something happen.
"First World Problem". Complaining and making changes is great, but people complaining about super-fast internet when lots in the world have limited internet (and lots have limited food...) is akin to some rich party-throwers getting irrate about the poor quality of the sea-bass and caviar rolls.
It's not about settling, but priorities, and directing one's emotional energy for change in more useful, meaningful directions. Which isn't to say we should never complain (I'm a great complain, pro rant), just that Grall's tongue-in-cheek reminder should maybe settle people's aggravations a little and get them to see their situation for its blessings rather than limitations. Rather than, "damn, I only get 7.5 GB/h", think, "OMG, I can download a DVD of content in only an hour! I remember dial-up only a short while ago. Now I can leave my console downloading overnight and have my new game ready the moment it's released without needing to visit a shop. And then I can play it online while the family is streaming HD movies. Progress is awesome!"
It's not about settling, but priorities, and directing one's emotional energy for change in more useful, meaningful directions. Which isn't to say we should never complain (I'm a great complain, pro rant), just that Grall's tongue-in-cheek reminder should maybe settle people's aggravations a little and get them to see their situation for its blessings rather than limitations. Rather than, "damn, I only get 7.5 GB/h", think, "OMG, I can download a DVD of content in only an hour! I remember dial-up only a short while ago. Now I can leave my console downloading overnight and have my new game ready the moment it's released without needing to visit a shop. And then I can play it online while the family is streaming HD movies. Progress is awesome!"
Honestly, anyone posting here and complaining about something (no 1080p! Crappy shadows! Anything!) is dealing with "first world problems".
Well, yes this is a "first world" problem ... but anything (complaining about something doesn't look like expected) is a "first world" problem. The real problem here is, you pay for PSN. PSN download speed were understandable while PS+ didn't exist. But now for playing online you pay for it, and sony should invest a bit more here. I know, you are paying for the ability to play online (which is broken enough) but, to be able to play online you must download patches etc, which also only have slow download speeds. If it would be capped to 80Mbit/s, that would be good enough (for now), but most times this download speed isn't nearly reached.
Why? Cause every other website you use that doesn't exactly match your 500Mbps connection have a warning that you won't get your full speed from them? Don't be ridiculous.
Some sites are fast, some are slow. Some PSN games download fast, some slow.
Heck, even within YouTube some videos download faster than others.
Some sites are fast, some are slow. Some PSN games download fast, some slow.
Heck, even within YouTube some videos download faster than others.
do you pay extra for YouTube?
Not sure how that's relevant. My point is that nobody puts 'warnings' for potential low download speed, either free or paid services.
When you signed up for PS+, did you agree to a contract that specified a minimumn/maximum download rate? What about Netflix and Amazon and any other service? What's the download BW cap on iTunes and Google Play and Windows Store and Adobe's Creative Cloud and Spotify Premium - do they warn 500 Mbps owners that their downloads won't be 500 Mbps?
Netflix actually warns you when your download speed was throttled though
That's a nicety and important for Netflix as BW directly affects quality of experience, as they are streaming. If you didn't get that warning, you may think Netflix wasn't capable of better quality and decide to ditch it. Does anyone anywhere tell you when your download isn't running as fast as your connection's peak? TBH it's pretty ludicrous to think that a 500 mbps connection to the home should be matched with a 500 mbps upstream. Seriously, think about the BW people are wanting here. If a million (only a million, not the hundreds of millions of internet enabled homes) people on 500 mbps connections want to download at full speed, that's 500,000,000,000,000 bits per second upload BW needed from the servers. 500 terabits per second, on every data provider. Current core bandwidths are ~100 Gbps I believe, with 1 Tbps being tested last year.
At the end of the day, super, super fast broadband connections to the home are faster than the backbone infrastructure can really support. It's no different to buying a car that can reach 190 mph and being capped to 70 mph on the motorway because of traffic and 50 mph in the countryside because the roads are too small and twister to go any faster. It's not Sony's (nor Google's, nor MS's, nor anyone but your ISP's) fault you bought something faster than can actually be used!
If slower speeds are cheaper, you may want to consider paying for a slower connection. It means the final experience is exactly the same because the same core limits are in place, but you save money. Just won't be able to brag about one's peak connection speed.
At the end of the day, super, super fast broadband connections to the home are faster than the backbone infrastructure can really support. It's no different to buying a car that can reach 190 mph and being capped to 70 mph on the motorway because of traffic and 50 mph in the countryside because the roads are too small and twister to go any faster. It's not Sony's (nor Google's, nor MS's, nor anyone but your ISP's) fault you bought something faster than can actually be used!
If slower speeds are cheaper, you may want to consider paying for a slower connection. It means the final experience is exactly the same because the same core limits are in place, but you save money. Just won't be able to brag about one's peak connection speed.
im glad im grandfathered on now-unavailable internet package of 30/15 Mbps for around 20USD
No, you don't pay for a specific download speed, but for the service. 500 Mbps is not realistic for current days, but it would be nice if PSN would even reach those mentioned 80Mbps. It dosn't make sense to provide a online shop and download service and than let your customers pay for it and not even try to make the situation better.
Last gen, PSN was free and the network interface of the PS3 was ... well not build for higher speeds than ~10Mbps. But now the PS4 doesn't limit the download speed. Just the service limits it and this seems to be the same as in PS3 times. Just missing the evolution of the online services. 80Mbps would be fine, but most of the time you can only dream from that (actually, you can really go to sleep and when you're awake, the game is still not on your disk).
btw.
Xbox live 10-15 MB/s
Steam 12-17 MB/s
PSN 10-20 Mb/s
actually, only 7 bits difference .... per byte
I have an 80Mbps connection and my PS4 downloads more often than not max it out. Maybe it also depends on the country.
if only Sony starts using torrent... the download speed will quickly saturate your max available bandwidth.
or at least use multi-threaded download connection like Origin.
or at least use multi-threaded download connection like Origin.
Except, 80Mbit/s does not fit the definition of "mediocrity". It's actually a fairly fast speed. This is the problem with you kids on the internet today; you think that obvious hyperbole is an acceptable substitute for logic and reasoning. It is not.
Eventually, 80Mbits/s will feel constraining, and the inevitable march of technology will make faster speeds more common and cheaply attainable, so the cap will get raised. Meanwhile, you won't die, or even suffer very much actually. So yes, absolutely first world problem!
even my LAN partially still 10mbps due to bad routing (im too lazy to make a new direct LAN connection, merging two switches from different floor on my house).
