It also depends on the scope. Sony should not be launching with 3 OSes as far as we know.
Business Approach Comparison Sony PS4 and Microsoft Xbox
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It also depends on the scope. Sony should not be launching with 3 OSes as far as we know.
What does 'further along' mean? How does that relate to having more units to sell at launch? Ms could have 1000 demo units now and Sony zero, but if Sony are making PS4's faster over the next two months, they could outsell MS (and vice versa).
I guess I'll never understand people's desire to form opinions based on insufficient information just because they want to.
Sony sent the PS4 to the FCC on June 3, and was certified in July, how much sooner is "this summer"?
Summer starts June 21.
The FCC approval date is useless info.
- The time between the filing and the approval doesn't change the production.
- They are both extremely early for their filing, compared to previous gen.
- Supply or even yield issues for any one of the hundreds of parts, now THAT could doom the launch.
Summer starts June 21.
The FCC approval date is useless info.
- The time between the filing and the approval doesn't change the production.
- They are both extremely early for their filing, compared to previous gen.
- Supply or even yield issues for any one of the hundreds of parts, now THAT could doom the launch.
No I'm not.So you are agreeing with me then?
What do you now define as production has started?
Or are you now saying you think production has started but how many being produced is unknown? In that case, I'm glad you agree.
Anyway to me this is a conversation will go around in circles, as I don't think anything will be known until we hear about figures.
Again you misunderstood what I was saying (and all my replies), I was not saying production had not started. I was replying to Johnny and his poor logic on how many units Sony/MS will have ready. The same thing Shifty and Mr.Fox replied to.
I never said anything about MS not being in production, I said the opposite, I said both were in production (meaning they are producing complete retail boxes).
Then you say why argue about the number of units when we don't know. I agree, Johnny was using some "facts" as evidence that MS had more units to sell; next time reply to him since you seem to disagree with him. Don't read some argument into my text that I never made.
What is the actual evidence?
Feel free to believe what you like, but you're wrong. The Xbox One passed FCC certification before the PS4.
Of course passing FCC certification doesn't mean anything in regards to manufacturing quantities.
No-one needs to rely on belief when it comes to facts like filing dates. A simple correction can be enough to get one to look it up on the internet. Better yet, provide a link. (Major Nelson says they have FCC approval).
On the subject of who's most ahead (a pretty pointless one), this interview with Respawn regards Titanfall at Gamescom...
Thus until I see a quote saying real retail XB1's were at Gamescom, I expect they were showing on devkits (which makes more sense to me).
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I guess we'll have to wait until november NPD numbers to know exactly.
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Yes having a few hundred units for game shows would seriously impact their launch capability. /sarcasm
Unless you believe they aren't able to produce very many?
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Why bring any retail units to gamescom when there's no benefit in doing so? Microsoft didn't have any retail units either. Makes sense to use devkits and have every single retail unit for sale at launch.
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Even if they can produce "very many" units, they said they are sold out of launch inventory.
If devkits suffice for game demoes, there is no reason to use retail units.
Aren't there rumors that they are giving away some retail units to Gamestop managers ? (I didn't bother to read that Gaf thread).
I'm only disagreeing with the reasoning. The sold out so we can't angle is complete rubbish.
What's wrong with being sold out, and careful about allocation ?
Devkits work as well as retail units (and more convenient for developers to modify their software) in game shows.
Retail units work better in automated store demoes, Gamestop employees for marketing purposes; plus of course customers' home. That's why I mentioned "Every single working retail units will be allocated to the customers, save for some marketing units and prototypes."
All Xbox One are dev kits (I mean retail are devkits too).
And for "near final", maybe it is software related (I guess the OS iss not finished yet).
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Who knows what that means, but it doesn't really matter either way. The fact is they're not retail units, otherwise he would have said so.
I agree. A few hundred units is minuscule. But like any launch, they're going to be supply constrained, so saving as many retail units available for sale would be the smart thing to do.
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They are going to give away thousands of promotional units and ship millions, having a few for a show would be insignificant.
That's what you think, but perhaps not hardcore gamers on the pre-order list who don't get it day one -- especially if devkits work as well as retail units during game shows.
If it's really sold out, Sony will allocate as many retail units to the customers as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if some retail stores don't get working retail units for promo.
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