YDL v5.0 confirmed for PS3; arriving mid November
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Terrasoft has announced apps that will be included in YDL 5.0. All 2,248 of them. 
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/included/
I'm not a linux user, but i think that they covered almost everything. Is anything missing? [except amulators ]
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/included/
I'm not a linux user, but i think that they covered almost everything. Is anything missing? [except amulators
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I see they still refuse to take sides in a conflict that makes the console war seem like a minor disagreement.
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That's actually quite cool, though I shudder to think how "fast" ruby code runs on Cell
Anyway, I don't think this list is quite final, or rather, it is not specific to the PS3 version. Do we really need
Also, searching for "evas" or "e17" or "enlightenment" yields 0 results. I'd say they still have some updating to do.
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I see they still refuse to take sides in a conflict that makes the console war seem like a minor disagreement.
ruby 1.8.4-6.fc5 : An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language
That's actually quite cool, though I shudder to think how "fast" ruby code runs on Cell
Anyway, I don't think this list is quite final, or rather, it is not specific to the PS3 version. Do we really need
on our PS3s?
Also, searching for "evas" or "e17" or "enlightenment" yields 0 results. I'd say they still have some updating to do.
YDL v5.0 will still be supporting Apple hardware, so there is going to be some stuff in there that's irrelevant to PS3..
Also, Terrasoft has given a little more detail on how you'll install it. They added this new question to their FAQ:
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/faq/ps3-general.shtml
edit - oh, and Engadget have a walkthrough of the PS3 XMB that reveals a little more in this regard too. There is indeed an "Install Other OS" option:
And then selecting it will prompt you to create a partition for another OS using the Format Utility:
Putting this, and the info from Terrasoft together, and it seems fairly clear how installation will work. The full engadget video is here:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/playstation-3-menu-interface-complete-video-walkthrough
Also, Terrasoft has given a little more detail on how you'll install it. They added this new question to their FAQ:
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/faq/ps3-general.shtml
edit - oh, and Engadget have a walkthrough of the PS3 XMB that reveals a little more in this regard too. There is indeed an "Install Other OS" option:
And then selecting it will prompt you to create a partition for another OS using the Format Utility:
Putting this, and the info from Terrasoft together, and it seems fairly clear how installation will work. The full engadget video is here:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/03/playstation-3-menu-interface-complete-video-walkthrough
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Here is little more info, when you click on INSTALL OTHER OS you must create new partition for Linux
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3400/ps1ut2.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1913/ps2pz1.jpg
EDIT - damn, Titanio was faster
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3400/ps1ut2.jpg
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EDIT - damn, Titanio was faster
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Interesting, although possibly fairly predictable, I would guess that makes the 60Gb version pretty much essential for Linux on PS3
Personally I'm going to try go for the 20GB, availability pending, and then pick up something like this.
I think what's interesting is that from the PS3 OS's perspective, what this other OS is doesn't really matter as long as its approved to boot on the machine. Seems set up to accomodate other types of OS or distros going forward if the vendors want to cooperate.
I think what's interesting is that from the PS3 OS's perspective, what this other OS is doesn't really matter as long as its approved to boot on the machine. Seems set up to accomodate other types of OS or distros going forward if the vendors want to cooperate.
Kinda OT to the topic at hand, but I'm really interested in seeing how the 7200rpm drives compare to the 5400rpm drive I'm assuming is in the PS3 out of the box. It will be nice to see some load time numbers after launch; specifically comparing no hdd, 5200rpm hdd, and a 7200rpm hdd.
Yeah, That would do the trick, It will be interesting to see how much free space there is on the 20Gb, if it's similar to the 360 in that respect plus you need to keep 4/5 Gb for game caching it will be quite tight as soon as you download a couple of demos
I know it would look ugly but I am hoping that someone comes out with an adapter that allows you to use the internal 2.5" Sata slot with an external 3.5" Sata drive
I know it would look ugly but I am hoping that someone comes out with an adapter that allows you to use the internal 2.5" Sata slot with an external 3.5" Sata drive
The PS3 Linux described by Kutaragi is supposed to be run as an application by the GameOS. Evidently this is not the case for YDL Linux on the PS3, since on x86 the BIOS does not run Linux as an application. Rather, in the booting process, Linux supplants the x86 BIOS, which cannot run again until another boot.
That looks like an over simplification by terrasoft,
As far as I understand it the GameOs & Linux are both run as 'applications' by the Cell Hypervisor Kernel, to the end user though it will likely appear as if Linux is Launched from within the GameOS leading to Terrasoft describing it the way they do in the FAQ
As far as I understand it the GameOs & Linux are both run as 'applications' by the Cell Hypervisor Kernel, to the end user though it will likely appear as if Linux is Launched from within the GameOS leading to Terrasoft describing it the way they do in the FAQ
Maybe. But my take is that the FAQ is right, Kutaragi is right, and the Linux that ships with PS3 and YDL Linux are just different animals. PS3's Linux does run as a GameOS application, but YDL Linux takes over the entire machine. We'll soon see.
YDL is the same for both PS3 and PCs. The only difference is that PS3 has a lower level OS than what we consider the OS on a PC. On a PC, exit Linux and you exit the machine. On PS3, exit Linux and you return to the bottom-most software layer. There won't be any difference to the Linux apps or users though. All it really means is if Linux crashes, you should still be able to quit back to XMB and close down the application or such, whereas on the PC you need to reboot.
Terra Soft has added a page of "featured apps", those that will be installed by default:
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/apps.shtml
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/apps.shtml
And here's some precise availability info - it'll be released to YDL.net subscribers on Nov 27. Freely available on public mirrors from the week of Dec 25th:
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/delivery.shtml
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/delivery.shtml
That was exactly the kind of apps I thought Staats had in mind when he said he would be replacing his cd and DVD-player, and I think this list will grow fast.
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That was exactly the kind of apps I thought Staats had in mind when he said he would be replacing his cd and DVD-player, and I think this list will grow fast.
Is Totem as good as mplayer?
Does anyone know if the PowerPC Citrix client for PowerPC (Mac) is going to work for YDL? Because if Citrix works, that's going to be one major step for not needing a x86 at home for me ... (apart from already getting a laptop from work, of course - I mean, I still have to develop some x86 software, but looking forward to moving away from the Windows platform and avoid buying a new PC)
- I mean, I still have to develop some x86 software, but looking forward to moving away from the Windows platform and avoid buying a new PC)mckmas8808
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Does anyone know if the PowerPC Citrix client for PowerPC (Mac) is going to work for YDL? Because if Citrix works, that's going to be one major step for not needing a x86 at home for me ... (apart from already getting a laptop from work, of course
Good point. We use Citrix to at our job. Hmmmm.....that really has me thinking.
Oh god... Citrix...
*shivers down the spine*
Had, and still have, really stupid experiences connected to Citrix. Not because of Citrix itself, just the mess in my company's global network. Not good.
*shivers down the spine*
Had, and still have, really stupid experiences connected to Citrix. Not because of Citrix itself, just the mess in my company's global network. Not good.
