Xbox live family plan this Nov $99.99

lol, I don't think Porsche engines are made by Ford! What's special about the components inside the MS products other than they restrict you to only being usable on one item!?

What in the world kinda weird analogy is that?

MS isn't preventing their products from being used on more than one item any more than Porsche is.

You can tear their engines out and put them in another car if you want to go through the hassle, and you can likewise do the same with MS's products.

Your strawman is on fire.
 
More Family Plan details from Kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/5572750/confessions-of-a-failed-gaming-parent?skyline=true&s=i

Umm. Do I see a totally upgraded dashboard here...

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and

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??????????????

Tommy McClain
 
Yeah, no more isometric tiles. Looks cleaner too. Hopefully it's an option. The isometric view was great at showing lots more titles.

Tommy McClain
 
What in the world kinda weird analogy is that?

MS isn't preventing their products from being used on more than one item any more than Porsche is.

You can tear their engines out and put them in another car if you want to go through the hassle, and you can likewise do the same with MS's products.

Your strawman is on fire.

way to twist what I said...porsche is a premium product with premium parts - all the X360 add-ons are standard parts inside propritry cases and you pay 3x the value of the item.

anyway, who am I to argue, if you're happy paying 3x what I pay for a HDD upgrade and be resricted to 3 options (vs my 100s of options) then good for you
 
Value is relative.

I don't understand why we get into these circular arguments as if those on here who find value in a particular product/service is trying to buy that product/service with the money of those on here that don't find value with that product/service.

I'm guessing these continued posts about other peoples money means that some people do not have their posts/page thread count set to 75 because surely dobwal's post was easy enough to read and understand but I'm quoting it again in case a few of you missed it...
 
way to twist what I said...porsche is a premium product with premium parts - all the X360 add-ons are standard parts inside propritry cases and you pay 3x the value of the item.

Twist what you said? You just said it again. Why exactly do you think that Porsche is a premium product with premium parts and the 360 isn't?

When the 360 launched, unlike the Wii or the PS3, it was the most powerful gaming platform available. It didn't matter how much you wanted to pay for your PC, you couldn;t buy or build one as powerful. Sure, now that the intel iCore series is out, there are far more powerful options at a lower entry price. But that wasn't the case when the 360 launched. It's the same as any Porsche that comes to market with new lighter materials or a better more economical turbo. It's at the top of the market for maybe one year, and after that, you can replicate everything in the Porsche through after market products at 1/2 or 1/3 the cost.

You are being ridiculous saying that the 360 isn't worth a premium price but that a Porsche is. First, you are ignoring the differences in the market place, second you are glossing over very important price point differentials, and finally, you're making a determination that to YOU "Porsche" means quality while "MS" doesn't.

You do realize that people pay extra money to buy Microsoft mice and keyboards, etc.. rather than Logitech, just because they are branded by MS, right?

Microsoft IS a premium brand, just like Porsche.

As is Sony. Which is why I have a Sony HDTV instead of a Best Buy house brand Insignia HDTV that I could have gotten a 42 inch instead of my 32 inch for the same price.

Your argument is invalid. And you're lucky I don't want to piss this forum off, otherwise I'd post a picture of a cat pushing a watermelon out of a lake right here.
 
I think this is a good deal for a family of 3+ sadly my infant daughter does not need an xbox live account, so I am getting shafted since I already pay for the wifes account and mine. Oh well
 
Why exactly do you think that Porsche is a premium product with premium parts and the 360 isn't?

Maybe we're talking at cross purposes or missunderstanding each other, but as I said, if you're happy to pay around 3x the value of something with a far restricted amount of options then good for you. Personally I am not happy to pay for overpriced wifi/HDD add-ons.
 
I think this is a good deal for a family of 3+ sadly my infant daughter does not need an xbox live account, so I am getting shafted since I already pay for the wifes account and mine. Oh well

do you have 1 or 2 xboxes? if you have one, out of interest don't you think it's unfair to pay for a service that only one of you can use at any one time?
 
New dashboard details leaked from Kinect beta

Following the leak of the new dashboard from Kinect beta participants, I figured I would the video & pics of the upgraded dash here...


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http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/26/sources-kinect-beta-kits-going-out-dashboard-update-live-for-p/
http://kotaku.com/5623502/a-closer-look-at-the-kinect-betas-avatars-and-dashboards

Pretty much confirms the few screens we seen. It's not a complete revamp. But it does look quite nice. Already digging the new Games Marketplace section. But did any notice the removal the Quick Launch option in the Guide Menu? Hopefully they're bringing a true customizable Quick Launch section on the dashboard, but I didn't see it.

The Kotaku pics also includes screens from the new Avatar editor. It's also sporting the newly updated avatars. Not sure I see much difference. Heads seem smaller, but that's about it.

Also, with this update comes new audio codec support for voice chat. Looks like one of the upgrades we get from them killing Xbox 1 support. Eurogamer has the details...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-26-xbox-headset-sound-quality-to-improve

No word yet if the 100 friends limit is busted, but I would hope so. They didn't kill Xbox 1 support just for higher quality voice did they?

Tommy McClain
 
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