X-Box 2 Speculation!
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Nick Laslett said:
Yes, Xbox2 could use a normal red laser dvd-rom. One of the proposals for HD-DVD is for the use of a better codec on DVD-9 discs. T2: Extreme Edition will have a high def transfer on disc 2 using the WM9 codec and only uses 3GB of space, less than the 480p transfer.
Over on AVS there is someone from MS and they said that WM9 beat every other format in a blind test done by a DVD Forum group to select the HD codec for red laser.
Exactly, that is why I think Xbox2 would have the selling point of being able to play HD-DVD movies while PS3 wouldn't with Blu-Ray.
Panajev2001a
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If WM9 gets put in HD-DVD ( red-laser ) I do not see Sony getting it... Blu-Ray needs a push and PlayStation 3 is a nice vector for it 
Blu-Ray will be able to do real-time video recording at HDTV quality and the encoding of the video stream will take considerably less than WM9 ( I do not believe WM9 compresses MORE and you can encode in WM9 FASTER compared to Blu-Ray... )...
Blu-Ray will be able to do real-time video recording at HDTV quality and the encoding of the video stream will take considerably less than WM9 ( I do not believe WM9 compresses MORE and you can encode in WM9 FASTER compared to Blu-Ray... )...
Panajev2001a
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Well It is not much better than Intel trying to push the Centrino solution ( Banias... ) in the desktop market against Pentium 4 Mobile stressing efficiency per cycle against clock frequency and do not step over Pentium 4's Desktop Marketing efforts against AMD which propose high clock-rate against a more IPC heavvy architecture like the K7-K8... maybe if they add the HT spice to the mix ( hey we were really going for efficiency too )
)I think the question of the codec for red-laser HD-DVD is orthagonal to Blu-Ray.
The reason you want to go with red-laser HD-DVD using WM9 codecs is cost -- you don't need to retool the drives or the manufacturing plants.
You have cheap, easy to manufacture media. You have cheap, easy to manufacture drives. And since the DVD chipset vendors are in the process of embedding WM9 codec support into their chipsets, the additional chipset cost to build a red-laser HD-DVD player is only marginally higher than a regular DVD player.
Thus the attraction of HD-DVD(red laser) + WM9 for content providers -- it nets them HD quality video, but they get to keep all their existing manufacturing infrastructure. The only difference in the players would be a beefier processor and some new firmware. (Incidentally, who here thinks that with the right optimization, an xbox could play a 720p red-laser HD-DVD encoded with WM9?)
I expect a red-laser/WM9 HD-DVD standard (if one were to be created) to be a success because of these factors.
That's not to say that a blue laser format is ruled out by going with WM9 -- it's not an either/or scenario. The codec choice should be orthagonal to the physical delivery medium, especially regarding games and not movies.
As for xbox2 using a red-laser only drive... we'll see.
The reason you want to go with red-laser HD-DVD using WM9 codecs is cost -- you don't need to retool the drives or the manufacturing plants.
You have cheap, easy to manufacture media. You have cheap, easy to manufacture drives. And since the DVD chipset vendors are in the process of embedding WM9 codec support into their chipsets, the additional chipset cost to build a red-laser HD-DVD player is only marginally higher than a regular DVD player.
Thus the attraction of HD-DVD(red laser) + WM9 for content providers -- it nets them HD quality video, but they get to keep all their existing manufacturing infrastructure. The only difference in the players would be a beefier processor and some new firmware. (Incidentally, who here thinks that with the right optimization, an xbox could play a 720p red-laser HD-DVD encoded with WM9?
)I expect a red-laser/WM9 HD-DVD standard (if one were to be created) to be a success because of these factors.
That's not to say that a blue laser format is ruled out by going with WM9 -- it's not an either/or scenario. The codec choice should be orthagonal to the physical delivery medium, especially regarding games and not movies.
As for xbox2 using a red-laser only drive... we'll see.