Wipeout Pure impressions

[London Geezer]

As for useless posts you shouldn't talk . You have your fair share of useless posts in the console forum where you add nothing to the thread except an attack , a joke , a few smileys or something else of no value to the topic .

See that's the difference, i don't troll, i don't attack people and i certainly don't crap on any thread to further my own agenda against one single company. No one apart from you or sonic complained about me joking, in fact many people are more than happy with my wacky posts, but you don't like it because you're a mod and "it's not in the term and conditions to joke". But a lot of other members constantly complain about PCEngine. Why do you think that is? And before you say it, no, it's not because they're all Sony fanbois.

its funny but i never did get a response to what post that was .

Because Sonic took care of it, and now it's lost in the millions of threads in the kid's forum so i can't point to it.

I've been reading most of the posts here about 90% of the console forum posts and i think he is fine . Actually the only problem i see was this thread which wasn't his fault from the last few weeks .

Then you're blind. He even ruined a perfectly normal thread in the Hardware Forum, all because of his anti-Sony agenda.

And this right here is the problem. You simply don't read .

I have already said that many times he is at fault . You skip that point completely because it doesn't further your agenda .

I don't miss the point, you seem to miss it. You make it sound like he's the civil one and other people attack him for no reason whatsoever. Remember, he's the one who got MANY "last warnings". You should only be giving one of those before banning. Still, he's here, free to play nice to please you, jvd, so you can think he's "calmed down". Then it's back from square one when he feels he's safe.
That's the point.

However in this post mech is at fault . Yet you still haven't answered the question of if mech should be banned for attacking pc-engine even though in this topic pc-engine hasn't done anything wrong .

Well, if PCEngine is still around after having done that for MONTHS, why should mech be banned for doing it the first time? How is that fair?
PCEngine and mech are not on the same level. So, mech attacked him here, but it's obvious PCEngine has much more baggage than mech.

You seem to know alot about what goes on in terms of banning . I think you think you know alot . But i doubt you do .

I don't have final say in any bans , actually all i can do is suggest things . But before the ideas move out of the console forum it is talked about between the mods of the forum .

You know what the funny thing is, i really don't care if he's banned or not, what i care about is that ultimately, he will drive the serious posters away, and the reputation of this forum will go down the drain, like it has been for the last few months. I'll keep posting where i post the most, the General Forum. I really don't care, personally.

 

[rabidrabbit]

Ok then, whoever doesn't matter. Good to see member moderation works.

I just would have felt better if it was PC-E or chap

Did anyone pm you when PC-Engine was on his "you don't get it because you're just dumb" rampage?
I didn't, al though it was also directred at me on several occasions, quess I will from now on if such ever occurs.

Edit: What's happened to your spelling?

 

[jvd]

See that's the difference, i don't troll, i don't attack people and i certainly don't crap on any thread to further my own agenda against one single company. No one apart from you or sonic complained about me joking, in fact many people are more than happy with my wacky posts, but you don't like it because you're a mod and "it's not in the term and conditions to joke". But a lot of other members constantly complain about PCEngine. Why do you think that is? And before you say it, no, it's not because they're all Sony fanbois.

But you do throw threads off topic , post useless nonsense and other things . There is a general forum for topics to goof off on . There is no reason to high jack a thread and turn it into a big joke . Or to responed with smileys for no other reason to add another post to your count .

Yes some members do complain about pc-engine . I have recived complaints about him. I have also recived complaints about the people who like to instigate him or attack him also .

Then you're blind. He even ruined a perfectly normal thread in the Hardware Forum, all because of his anti-Sony agenda.

I'm blind because i missed a thread in the hardware forum ? Well by your stats its 1-1 between mech and pc-engine

I don't miss the point, you seem to miss it. You make it sound like he's the civil one and other people attack him for no reason whatsoever. Remember, he's the one who got MANY "last warnings". You should only be giving one of those before banning. Still, he's here, free to play nice to please you, jvd, so you can think he's "calmed down". Then it's back from square one when he feels he's safe.
That's the point.

Once again you miss the point completely .

Once again because it doesn't further your agenda . As for "last warnings" I have no clue where you get this from. I my self have never posted a last warning . Actually I don't think there ever has been a last warning . We simply tell the person not to post anymore and thats that , like in hovz case .

The real point however is if we do get rid of pc-engine there are still those who started flames to get him in trouble or for whatever reason that need to be gotten rid of too .

Well, if PCEngine is still around after having done that for MONTHS, why should mech be banned for doing it the first time? How is that fair?
PCEngine and mech are not on the same level. So, mech attacked him here, but it's obvious PCEngine has much more baggage than mech.

Perhaps in your view its that simple . But in my view if your going to attack someone you should get the same punishment .

So i ask again. Should i ban mech for attacking a member of this forum ?

You know what the funny thing is, i really don't care if he's banned or not, what i care about is that ultimately, he will drive the serious posters away, and the reputation of this forum will go down the drain, like it has been for the last few months.

There are other kinds of posts that will drive away serious posters too. Not many people like to have a deep converstation about something to have it interupted by someone joking or quoting something followed by a bunch of smileys .

Neither should be tollerated and sonic and I try out best to keep the forums under control . Unfortunatly we are limited in our powers and make do with what we want and we don't bend to what a few users want . We don't ban someone because another member tells us to ban them and you go around telling people that they are going to get banned and that you have knowledge of them getting banned is not something you should be doing .

I'll keep posting where i post the most, the General Forum. I really don't care, personally.

Actually it apears you do care very much .

 

[jvd]

I just would have felt better if it was PC-E or chap

For what ? So that you can say oh well they are much worse than what i did ?

It seems to be the excuse for many of you . Oh what i do is okay cause its not as bad as this other guy next to me .

Did anyone pm you when PC-Engine was on his "you don't get it because you're just dumb" rampage?
I didn't, al though it was also directred at me on several occasions, quess I will from now on if such ever occurs.

people allways contact us . sometimes about threads we have just taken care of . Sometimes because of things we miss . It happens . Sometimes i log in and the forum has no yellow unread posts , so sometimes you miss a last post on a page .

Your free to pm us and we will see if we need to step in .

Edit: What's happened to your spelling?

My spelling is allways bad , perhaps worse since its almost 5am

 

[rabidrabbit]

There was a smily on the end of that
No, I would've felt better because then I would have felt less less popular

I meant your spelling had improved a lot.

Shall we bring this thread back to tracks now.

 

[London Geezer]

But you do throw threads off topic , post useless nonsense and other things . There is a general forum for topics to goof off on . There is no reason to high jack a thread and turn it into a big joke . Or to responed with smileys for no other reason to add another post to your count .

Yes some members do complain about pc-engine . I have recived complaints about him. I have also recived complaints about the people who like to instigate him or attack him also .

I can only say that i'm amazed. If you think i've ruined serious threads with useless jokes, then i can only go :?
I joke, yeah, but never post jokes in threads unless they're already somewhat joke-y.

I'm blind because i missed a thread in the hardware forum ? Well by your stats its 1-1 between mech and pc-engine

I never said that. But nevermind, jvd.

Once again you miss the point completely .

Once again because it doesn't further your agenda .

What would my agenda be? Oh wait, i'm a Sony fanboi?? I think i've proven many times that the name of a company doesn't interest me.

As for "last warnings" I have no clue where you get this from. I my self have never posted a last warning . Actually I don't think there ever has been a last warning .

Proof that you're blind. It wasn't you, then it was Sonic. Many "last warning, next tiem u're banned". Trust me, i'm on here a lot more than you are.

The real point however is if we do get rid of pc-engine there are still those who started flames to get him in trouble or for whatever reason that need to be gotten rid of too .

If they're constantly trolling as much as he is, of course you should ban them! But it's hard to find someone that does it as much as he does. But until he's safe behind you, who cares huh. You can always blame me for "joking around", though i never ruin serious threads like he does.

Perhaps in your view its that simple . But in my view if your going to attack someone you should get the same punishment .

That would be right yeah. Why is he still around?

So i ask again. Should i ban mech for attacking a member of this forum ?

For attacking someone once? After PCEngine has gotten away with it for months? How is that fair? Ban them both, if you think it's fair.

There are other kinds of posts that will drive away serious posters too. Not many people like to have a deep converstation about something to have it interupted by someone joking or quoting something followed by a bunch of smileys .

I NEVER ruin serious threads with my jokes.

Neither should be tollerated and sonic and I try out best to keep the forums under control . Unfortunatly we are limited in our powers and make do with what we want and we don't bend to what a few users want . We don't ban someone because another member tells us to ban them and you go around telling people that they are going to get banned and that you have knowledge of them getting banned is not something you should be doing .

You can't ban anyone, you "request them to be banned". And if you think the reason why PCEngine should be banned is because i ask you to, then you're missing the point entirely.

Actually it apears you do care very much .

I care very much about these boards because i'm on here all day and have been for years, of course i care. I don't care personally about the guy, i wish him a very happy life.

 

[mech]

HOnestly . The witch hunt against him is really getting out of hand . He posted a simple response in which others have agreed with (the ghosting) yet he was attacked . Why ? Because in this thread it apears a sony fan doesn't want any flaws in sony hardware pointed out .

jvd, stop lying to get your point across.

HOnestly . The witch hunt against him is really getting out of hand . He posted a simple response in which others have agreed with (the ghosting) yet he was attacked . Why ? Because in this thread it apears a sony fan doesn't want any flaws in sony hardware pointed out .

He posted a simple response?

Hey, let's check out his original post:

Maybe it's 30fps to reduce ghosting of the slow response time of PSP's LCD?

RR is able to hide ghosting to a degree by using a lot of motion blur...

Oh, that's a simple, not trolling response is it? MY MISTAKE.

PSP's LCD has a great response time, and Ridge Racer isn't trying to "hide" ghosting by using motion blur.

I TOTALLY agree that ghosting is apparent on PSP's LCD screen btw, and have never said otherwise. You're arguing things that simply aren't there.

My beef with PC-Engine was him trying to throw in an insult against the console and for WHAT? No good reason, he just threw it in there. I'd had enough of his shit over recent days, the guy just does not quit.

I'm yet to see "any" motion blur in Ridge Racer, let alone "a lot", which is why I said he was posting crap...

But to ban him then i will have to ban those that are at fault in the other threads . That is of course only fair . Why should pc-engine be banned for starting flame wars or trolling and someone like mech who attacked him in this thread shouldn't be ?

He started trolling, not me. Sorry, we shouldn't call people out for trolling? We should just put up with it?

Is it because mech is a sony fan and pc-engine is anti sony ?

Lol, I don't go with one particular company - I've been labeled an Xbox fanboi, a Nintendo fanboi, a Sony fanboi.. I own all consoles out there, and I just get shitty when people needlessly attack other consoles. I don't care which console does well, cos I just buy 'em all

Pc-engine said that the psp screen ghosts . Which is negative but true .

If you had even READ his post you would know that's not what he said.

Its not anymore clear cut than that l-b .

Except that you didn't even read what he wrote...

 

[pahcman]

PSP's LCD has a great response time, and Ridge Racer isn't trying to "hide" ghosting by using motion blur.

I TOTALLY agree that ghosting is apparent on PSP's LCD screen btw, and have never said otherwise. You're arguing things that simply aren't there.

My beef with PC-Engine was him trying to throw in an insult against the console and for WHAT? No good reason, he just threw it in there. I'd had enough of his shit over recent days, the guy just does not quit

psp lcd rt is 25ms iirc, but today standard, it is not great...looking at 4ms now..
same time, lcd with fast response time mean less colors more dithering. psp has 16.77m colors and that is part reason why psp screen so pretty and yes.. come with.. have slow response time..

i dont see why u say pce troll or insult what pretty seem right.

 

[Ty]

Actually I don't think there ever has been a last warning .

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=470047&highlight=last+warning#470047

We simply tell the person not to post anymore and thats that , like in hovz case .

If hovz is still here, then that's a shame. Still he trolled way less than PCE.

Will you read the this thread and tell me where Shifty Geezer deserved the reply that he got.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22317&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Or how about the thread where rabid mentioned that he's getting a PSP and PCE said, "Hope you don't get any stuck pixels!" Which, when considering their relationship can hardly be construed as a joke.

Or when LB said something which turned out to be wrong, and PCE said, "LB got owned". Which, when considering their relationship can hardly be a joke as well.

The funny thing is, no one went after PCE when he posted the fake Zelda screenshot as Zelda on Revolution. No one really went after him when he called the Revolution's CPU Tarantula. So though I agree that he has a contentious relationship with some, it's not as if there is a witch hunt out to get him.

Frankly, I'm also surprised that anyone else spoke up. There are a lot of silent voices that are behind our point of view.


pahcman,

The viewing angle also impacts the amount of "ghosting". The greater the view angle, the greater the "ghosting".

 

[Phil]

People should know my take on PC-Engine's as well as the mods posting habits - but could you please continue this discussion in the site feedback area (I'll be happy to participate in there too)? Not only will there be more attention in there but they might be even something done about it. Lets keep this thread about wipeout (I even changed the title to widen the discussion beyond framerate issues).

Thanks.

 

[jvd]

Yes if you want to continue talking aobut it lets do so on the site feedback section or through ims