Will get PS3, not XB360

[DuckThor Evil]

You don't want halo349879?

Last time I checked 4 was bigger than 3...

 

[Shogmaster]

Because Shogmaster belongs to a cute gang of little people that loves dying hairs and getting nekkid.

How about reading the reasoning before starting the finger pointing, Jr. And ask around if I have a habit of trolling around here at B3D.

 

[London Geezer]

How about reading the reasoning before starting the finger pointing, Jr. And ask around if I have a habit of trolling around here at B3D.

I missed your post too i must admit.

MGS has changed gradually from totally top-down to more flexible "views". I'm sure MGS4 will follow the trend and have a more advanced FPS view (in MGS2 you could go in FPS view but couldn't move for example).

 

[Mefisutoferesu]

Have either of you even play MGS 3? Or heard about the changes in Subsitence? Seriously, I'm not trying to be rude, but I get the feeling you guys haven't played the games much if you think the view is top down.

Subsitence will be sporting a 3d camera mode, which will also be in MGS4. The MGS games aren't that top-down to begin with... ... but people seem to think so. In any case, the camera is a non-issue.

 

[Titanio]

Didn't Kojima say in some interview that MGS4 would be playable in first person view too? Maybe the third person toppish down view being the default, but you could switch to 1st person anytime, and actually move in that view too this time

I don't think that's the case, but it will be a "proper" 3D camera. MGS3:Subsistence will have a go at that too.

 

[Reverend]

If that is so, I'd highly recommend borrowing a PS2 and play MGS1 and MGS2. They are still up to this day some of the best games available and it should make warm you up in time for MGS4. I'd also recommend playing MGS3 (best game of the series by a very large margin IMO).

That will ensure you hold out until PS3 launches and by then, you'll know if the MGS-style of gameplay appeals to you or not. If you realize it doesn't - you still can re-decide which console you want to buy (and suffice to say, they'll be out more on Xbox360 by then to help your decision if you're still uncertain).

Sorry, thought it would be clear from my words that I have played 1, 2 and 3 to death.

 

[PARANOiA]

Crackdown is still avery unproven thing, could be great, could be mediocre.
I don't see many people basing their console buying decision on an unreleased new franchise.
The Halo's, Metal Gear Solids, PGR's, Gran Turismo's, Zelda's, Grand Theft Auto's, Final Fantasies, Tekkens, DoA's... they are what make people decide.

Interesting in theory, but if that was the case, no one would have bought a Playstation, or an Xbox. GT, GTA, Tekken, Soul Calibur MGS, DOA were all born on the PSX (lets ignore arcade here..), and sold like hot-cakes. N64 and Saturn had tonnes of sequels, but didn't fare so well.

I agree that these titles will move systems with the "core fan-base" (who nothing at all will change their purchase of choice), but new IP is what makes gaming great, and I believe it's the new stuff that will win next-gen.

Fingers crossed that both sides put heaps of effort into new titles.

 

[Bobbler]

As strange as this topic is, I agree on some parts of it.

PS3 was a no brainer simply for the Sony first party games.

The possibility of Fumito Ueda making a game for PS3 sold me on it.

God of War team, Warhawk team (whoever that may have been), Ico team (Fumito Ueda), Insomniac, the team that did Parappa the rapper, eyetoy, Polyphony digital, and the team behind Loco Roco (which looks fantastically fun -- although on psp). I don't think Sony's first party games get enough credit, at least some of them -- they are some of the most unique and memorable games ever made, rivaling nintendo in creativity (and sometimes beating the pants off anything they've made in the last 10 years).

Add on to that you have a huge batch of third party game multiplatform games (which will arguably look the same on any platform) and a huge batch of exclusives (MGS, FF, Suikoden, DMC, VF, Tekken, GTA -- maybe?) and I really don't see much reason not to get a PS3... of course this doesn't mean there aren't reasons for other systems, but PS3 will be the easiest decision I've ever made (barring a 500+ price tag =o).

 

[winstonsmith1978]

Interesting in theory, but if that was the case, no one would have bought a Playstation, or an Xbox. GT, GTA, Tekken, Soul Calibur MGS, DOA were all born on the PSX (lets ignore arcade here..), and sold like hot-cakes. N64 and Saturn had tonnes of sequels, but didn't fare so well.

I agree that these titles will move systems with the "core fan-base" (who nothing at all will change their purchase of choice), but new IP is what makes gaming great, and I believe it's the new stuff that will win next-gen.

Fingers crossed that both sides put heaps of effort into new titles.

I agree with this statement. I'm more excited about Too Human and Mass Effect then all the sequels. I'm also looking forward to revolution for the same reason. Nobody gives nintendo any love.

 

[DigitalSoul]

I agree with this statement. I'm more excited about Too Human and Mass Effect then all the sequels. I'm also looking forward to revolution for the same reason. Nobody gives nintendo any love.

That game has a long ways coming. I remember it originally being some sort of action for the PSone, IIRC. Has the concept of the game changed since?

 

[winstonsmith1978]

That game has a long ways coming. I remember it originally being some sort of action for the PSone, IIRC. Has the concept of the game changed since?

This is a good article on Too Human = http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3144363&did=1

 

[Acert93]

Hahaha So are we all gonna start threads about what console we are gonna get and why? To paraphrase nice guys on the forum (I hope they don't mind me using their names), but I can see it now, "My name is Scooby, I am getting an Xbox 360 because I could not imagine not playing Halo 3" and "My name is Mckmas and I am getting a PS3 because I could not imagine not playing Killzone2".



Oh well, I figured when I chose a console I would probably let people know as well... so I guess I am as guilty

 

[jvd]

I don't have a clue which is/will be the better console hardware-wise but I cannot imagine not buying/playing MGS4. I don't think there's any XB360-exclusive knockout title but I sure know of one for the PS3.

Is it a knock out title ? How does it play ? how is the story ? Is it any fun ?

How can u say its a knock out title if you can't answer the 3 others .

Wait for it to be playable before you start saying things with nothing to back it up

 

[seismologist]

I've never understood buying a platform for one game. I guess gaming is just not as important to me as it is to many other people.

When it's part of a series it makes sense that you wouldn't want to miss out on the sequel.

 

[Inane_Dork]

When it's part of a series it makes sense that you wouldn't want to miss out on the sequel.

And nothing I said would imply otherwise. I've played Halo and Halo 2. Heck, I read the three books. I'd really like to know what happens in Halo 3. But there's no way I'd buy an X360 for just Halo 3. No one game is that important to me.

 

[seismologist]

Well he never said he was buying it for one game. But one game is enough to tip the scale in favor of the PS3. That's how it is for me anyway. Actually in my case it's more like 5 or 6 established must have franchises that are going to be on the PS3.
We all know that there will be plenty of "other" games to play.

 

[wco81]

The titles I'm most interested in are likely to be multiplatform.

Doesn't mean I will decide pure on hardware alone but if both consoles are roughly equal in graphics performance, the tiebreaker would be the Blu-Ray drive and the ability to play back HDTV movies.

 

[wazoo]

Interesting in theory, but if that was the case, no one would have bought a Playstation, or an Xbox. GT, GTA, Tekken, Soul Calibur MGS, DOA were all born on the PSX (lets ignore arcade here..), and sold like hot-cakes. N64 and Saturn had tonnes of sequels, but didn't fare so well.

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The N64 sold more than the xbox, so your point is not really valid.

This was an interesting week. I was not interested by the xbox360, and I'm still not, but at least I'm considering buying one, which is quite new considering I completely skipped the xbox.

 

[PARANOiA]

The N64 sold more than the xbox, so your point is not really valid.

I think you missed my point entirely. I tried to say the PSX (and to a lesser extent the XBox) created franchises rather than running on the steam of existing ones.. not that the Xbox was more successful than the N64.

I honestly don't know how the hell you got that from my message, but eh..

 

[rabidrabbit]

I also wasn't at all interested in xbox360 before, but now I'm starting to warm to the idea. But it's an idea of a next gen console more than specifically xbox360 and it's games.
The current consoles do not have much in view that would interest me (apart from that ICO "sequel", FFXII and DQ) and to be honest todays consoles are starting to look a bit dated graphically so I'm ready for next gen now. A few months ago I was really bored at gaming in general but now it seems I have that interest again.

It's not that I am in a hurry to get my next gen console, I can and will wait until next year for a price drop, better games (the xbox360 launch lineup and games announced for year 2006 have none that would be "must have" for me, nor ones that I can see being very long lasting, and what the competitors have to offer.

I think you missed my point entirely. I tried to say the PSX (and to a lesser extent the XBox) created franchises rather than running on the steam of existing ones.. not that the Xbox was more successful than the N64.

You won't be creating succesful franchises unless your console is at least somewhat succesfull to survive long enough to give home to these franchises.
PSOne had already established franchises to ignite the success (Final Fantasy, Ridge Racer, Tekken, Metal Gear), the new franchises didn't come until the console had established it's place in the market. WipEout wasn't a franchise yet when it launched with PSOne, or Silent Hill, or Gran Turismo.