Will ATi support SM 3.0 before SM 4.0 part ready ?

[tazdevl]

or Rolston?

 

[paju]

SM 3.0 capable R500 in spring or summer 2005

SM 4.0 capable R600 in summer or fall 2006

just my guess.

but Dave's revalations on ATI roadmap may change all this...

R500 most likely won't be introduced for nearly two years. For XBox2 possibly but not for PC. Orton said IIRC in some interview that the development time of a GPU has increased and now they are talking about 18 to 24 months.

That way we would see R500 very late 2005 or spring 2006. R600 most likely will be instroduced around 2 years after R500. New revisions of the R4x0 core will be introduced at least once or maybe even twice. Basic architecture most likely won't change much.

 

[Heathen]

R500 most likely won't be introduced for nearly two years.

Problem is, ATi has two design teams and the R420 isn't a new graphics chipset.

That way we would see R500 very late 2005 or spring 2006.

Early to mid 2005 at the latest I'd guess.

Basic architecture most likely won't change much.

The basic architecture was introduced with the R300. If ATi keep it for another two years they'd be REALLY REALLY stupid.

 

[Dave Baumann]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

 

[a688]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

Is this similar to how there is no R400? In other words is there a R5x0 but no R500.

 

[Geo]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

Jesu H. Christo. On a crutch.

 

[tEd]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

there is no spoon............................................... 8)

 

[PatrickL]

Orton interview on wednesday is promising; Can't wait for new ground for more speculation

 

[Tahir2]

Perhaps that XB2 and GC2 work has had an impact on the PC side as well.

 

[PaulS]

R4xx to tide them over until a closer-than-we-thought R600? Surely not.

The R5x0 makes more sense, you'd imagine. Although XBox2 IS pretty close, and that's R600...

 

[Geo]

If there is no R500 then there was no R400, and if there was no R400 then there was nothing that Orton was so excited about before the launch of R300 --which turned out to be one hellaciously kick-ass piece of engineering for that moment in time-- and yet he was dissing it relatively in comparison to R400. Which just went <poof!> like the cheshire cat's smile.

Come to think of it, this is probably why Dave said to flush everything we thought we knew on this subject. Okay. Wet towel, dark room, laying down.

 

[Bjorn]

Orton interview on wednesday is promising; Can't wait for new ground for more speculation

Me neither. After all, the R420 will soon be "released" and then (well, it'll take a couple of months before everything settles down) we need something new to talk about

 

[Joe DeFuria]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

I want to know exactly what the Marlborough team has been doing for the past 3 years.

I mean...seriously! I don't believe they have put out a (PC based) part since the Radeon 8500. Everything since then, including the R4xx has been West coast...correct?

 

[Megadrive1988]

within the last three or so years, probably after R200 / 8500 was complete, the Marlborough team, or another part of ATI East (someone said there are 2 East Coast design teams) is said to have taken in at least some of the former Lockheed Martin Real3D division people. so I expect something good from ATI East.

 

[Eronarn]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

Is this similar to how there is no R400? In other words is there a R5x0 but no R500.

Actually, they're going straight to the R1000, using time travel (that's what the east coast team has been doing this time). Don't tell Inq about it, though, I wouldn't want Nvidia to catch on and try it... if they can't make a decent graphics card I sure as hell don't want them messing with the space-time continuum.

 

[oeLangOetan]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

I want to know exactly what the Marlborough team has been doing for the past 3 years.

I mean...seriously! I don't believe they have put out a (PC based) part since the Radeon 8500. Everything since then, including the R4xx has been West coast...correct?

The upcoming R4x0(x>2) boards may be fully based on the original R400 technology

 

[Farid]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

Are you insinuating that ATI is going to sell "IP on box", so the end consumer will just buy the ip and he will go produce the chip at the foundry he like the most. brilliant idea

(j/k)

Teasing is bad for our nerves dave... So bad...

So there's no R400... no R500... Should we start forgeting about R600?

 

[LeStoffer]

Just to throw another one into the melting pot: there is no R500.

No 90nm = no R500? 110nm = R511? 8)