And architecture. We don't really know what "improved Broadway" means. There's also be hell to pay at IBM for their POWER7 comments if Wii U is an overclocked tricore Broadway.
Wii U hardware discussion and investigation *rename
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Well, I consider it pretty amazing that a CPU supports 'fully coherent cores' (a term normally applied to caches and not cores) and something called 'write gatherer per core' to sound impressive. The term "write gatherer" doesn't even exist on Google prior to 2012.
Write gather is something you find in Gamecube documentation from 2001. Cache locking and DMA are there as well. It's almost like someone just read the same .pdf and decided to run with it.
I'm totes calling this as nonsense.
Write gather is something you find in Gamecube documentation from 2001. Cache locking and DMA are there as well. It's almost like someone just read the same .pdf and decided to run with it.
I'm totes calling this as nonsense.
But arent you the guy who says it doesn't matter?
Ahem, I wouldn't quite go that far. It's more accurate to say that I'm not worried about its GPU performance.
Part of the reason is because I was recently forced to go back from my HD6850 to my old 320mb 8800GTS without particularly suffering for it (aside from the memory size). I fired up Crysis 2 for kicks and found it more playable at 720p than I thought it would be. In 3D Vision, no less. And I'm frankly hard pushed to tell the difference outside of the resolution drop.
herre is a very known developer, he leaked the Wii specs.
Is he? I googled 'lherre wii specs' prior to 2007 and got 5 results. None concerning the Wii.
I fully admit that I may well be wrong but the Internet has taught me a lot of lies. Like what women want.
Also, a further historical googling of reliable Wii developer sources brought me to these on Ars Technica:
and these on Eurogamer:
and these on Eurogamer:
The Wii was released in 2006.
Posting a litany of incorrect rumors doesnt prove anything! Most rumors turn out false especially early on.
You'll also note those rumors have a common theme, they suggest Nintendo hardware is much more powerful than it actually turned out to be.
Specs was unknown at 2006.
Certainly. But they're both quoted as from 'reliable sources'. Developers, in fact.
Sort of like we're seeing here but with 2001 specs.
Wha? No, they weren't. Here's one prior to release (dated September 2006 by Google) that nails it to a tee.
Right, IGN was the first to nail the specs, too much denial I would add...
Also while the above is true, I wouldn't be surprised if IGN didn't edit in those specs later, given it's nature as a database page. Even Matt Cassamasina's first correct Wii specs had some errors and were not so specific I believe while being mainly correct.
Eh? That was just the first hit on Google. The only point is that was from before 2007. Which means that this lherre doesn't hold credit for it.
Even the text itself suggests that it was written before the Wii was released. Being on IGN is wholly irrelevant and doesn't suggest that they are the actual source of the specification. Whether it was edited later is admittedly open to speculation but that's how it comes up on Google. Which suggests the time when it was indexed.
Edit: You can also google "729 MHz IBM PowerPC "Broadway" CPU" from before 2007 and you'll find a bucketload of hits. Including a dated one on NeoGAF here. Either way, lherre is not the source so why should I believe him now?
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Surely you jest!
Simply disassembling the Wii reveals its gamecube-derived innards. Specs were known pretty much from day one of the thing going on sale.
Apparently you were not around the internet then LOL. I was.
The first guy to really out the Wii as essentially an overclocked GameCube was IGN's Matt Cassamasina, on IGN. A shitstorm ensued...much weeping and denial.
Being that is meant as an archival reference, and the spot on detail, I am pretty sure those Wii particular IGN specs could be edited in later. I could be wrong though.
Some google Fu yielded me this, I believe it was the fundamental article: http://www.ign.com/articles/2006/03/30/revolutions-horsepower
As I recall it the above link was the one that set the internet ablaze at the time. I could also be wrong but i believe it was the first credible leak about Wii specs, we were guessing before then. And there were a lot of people touting that the Revolution would be quite beefy. Similar to how it is with the Wii U today.
Like I said, I fully admit that I could be wrong. What I am saying is that, if this lherre is trying to take credit for the Wii specs, then I don't trust him as a Wii U source for a single second.
And when I see a rumor claiming that a decade old 'cache locking' 'write gathering' wannabe technobabble makes the CPU seem impressive then it's like saying that the PS4 supporting 3DNow! would make it seem impressive. It makes entire rumor suspect.
Matt had the developer docs when he leaked the Wii specs, there was still huge denial and a lot of "those were just early specs" comments.
A lot of people couldn't believe how relatively underpowered it was.
People believe what they want, I know at least some accurate information has been posted in this thread, and some of it subsequently shouted down and ignored by various people because it doesn't align with what they want to be true.
I don't know for sure, but the leaked specs look reasonable to me, and align with the few specific items I do know from reliable sources.
Now what statements like enhanced broadway mean, I have no idea, but to me even using that term doesn't bode well for powerful processor.
A lot of people couldn't believe how relatively underpowered it was.
People believe what they want, I know at least some accurate information has been posted in this thread, and some of it subsequently shouted down and ignored by various people because it doesn't align with what they want to be true.
I don't know for sure, but the leaked specs look reasonable to me, and align with the few specific items I do know from reliable sources.
Now what statements like enhanced broadway mean, I have no idea, but to me even using that term doesn't bode well for powerful processor.
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Nobody believed the IGN specs, Lherre put docs for probe. anyway, lherre has given detailed info after this.
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