Who really is the father of CELL, IBM or Kutaragi???

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  1. PC-Engine

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    Is his specialty digital or analog?
     
  2. Panajev2001a

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    Is this a trick question ?

    And btw, let me answer with this...

    Digital does not exist... it is, like a lot of other things in this world, a nice sort of mind-fuc$ which happens to be useful in doing things ;)
     
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    I just noticed that the newest forum member goes by the name of Ken Kutaragi :wink:
     
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    Didn't Kuturagi lead team design the SNES sound chip ?
     
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    There have been similiar approaches far older then IBMs. Goodyears STARAN is another example for this (that was sometimes in the late 60s, early 70s if i remeber corectly).
     
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    According to the book Revolutionaries at Sony by Reiji Asakura, in the early eighties, he build a CP/M micro on his own, around a Z80, because he wasn't satisfied with what was available at the time.
    Prior to Playstation also had much experience in DSPs (SNES soundchip and others) and was very interested in computer graphics.
    A large excerpt from the book is available here.
     
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    OMG! Check this shit out. Carmack < all kneel > inseminated teh Cell!! He is the father.

     
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    I would compare Kutagari to Bill Gates (bear with me). sure, at one time Bill Gates was a programmer, but now he's a business manager. does anyone really think Bill Gates wrote any of the code in what's now known as Windows? no, he has people that do that for him...
     
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    I think Ken Kutaragi has more Computer engineering experience than Bill gates has programming, but that is just me ;)
     
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    Deadmeat, I mean no offence by this whatsoever, but for several reasons, it is my belief that you are Nobody's Perfect of 1995-1997/8
    who posted on various message boards and Usenet.

    Although I could be totally wrong. :wink:
     
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    Just a minor correction on the Apple thingy, it's "Jef" not "Jeff" Raskin.

    Like said already, he invented the Macintosh. And his original academic work influenced a lot of the research on GUIs at PARC. Jobs, for his part, at one point actually tried to kill off the Mac project, after he had been laughed out of the Lisa project by the real engineers there... (And Lisa was originally just a text interface computer, the GUI was adopted from Mac.) Later Raskin had no choice but to let Jobs into the Mac project and eventually to run it; some time later Raskin left Apple. It's an interesting story, and Google finds it all...

    But weird how effective Jobs' reality distortion field is :lol:

    About Cell, I remember an interview of Kutaragi where he spoke of it as his vision. (The guy's quite a hippie, isn't he?) But it could be something IBM was also thinking of on their own, at least as a concept for future multipurpose processor, and their ideas just coincided nicely. In a way the idea can be seen both as a partial evolution from Sony's EE (just add way more VUs on a chip) and as a partial evolution from IBM's Power4 (just add way more cores on a chip). Dunno, tho.
     
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    back when Dolphin was still in development in 1999, after PS2 specs had been revealed, I read every web page about Dolphin that I could find. one Dolphin website in particular (forgot which one) said that IBM's Gekko CPU was making some "extrodinary advances", that it was already blowing the Emotion Engine out of the water. I fantasized that Gekko was based on the Power4 with its twin cores, and capablity of having 4 Power4s together in one chip-package, thus 8 cores :) - without thinking about costs or that Gamecube would, ultimately, end up as a more modest machine, I thought that (Power4) might have been the direction Gekko was taking.
     
  13. archie4oz

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    I think "fantasized" is a big of an understatement! :p
     
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