Actually I'm inclined to the PS3, but not completely decided on it, since lots of people here would get an X360 on my situation, I'll have to think it further
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Actually I'm inclined to the PS3, but not completely decided on it, since lots of people here would get an X360 on my situation, I'll have to think it further
XB360 is the better choice for the cross-library games. It's cheaper and tends to play them better. It hasn't caught up with the other machines for the broader market. eg. Lips isn't a great song game. Still, it does offer something for the femail contingent (applying a broad stereotype!). PS3 is the best all-rounder if you can afford it and don't mind some minor cmpromises with the cross-platform games. Wii is the machine with the most 'non-gamer' appeal, even if you don't 'get it'. There are also the exclusives to worry about (are you more a LBP or GeOW gamer?) and there's also the option of both XB360 and Wii to cover the broader bases.
All IMHO
All IMHO
Yes it has a HDMI port. I'll check out the PSU and tray when I get home. Thanks.
I didn't play WE or PES but my understanding is that their PS3/Xbox360 games haven't been as good as WE on the PS2.
They don't have a usable online mode from what I hear. Very laggy.
Meanwhile, FIFA has improved a lot in the estimation of many football fans and in FIFA, you can play online matches of up to 10 vs. 10 human players from all around the world.
They need to have good connections though.
I have all three and here are my observations:
Wii: my kids love it (Smash Brothers and Harvest Moon currently)...for me, meh.
PS3: some great games but dual-release titles usually better on 360. Great controller.
360: best overall for games even though controller not as good as Sony's
I should add that I love the PS3 as a blu-ray player on my 50" 1080p plasma...
Wii: my kids love it (Smash Brothers and Harvest Moon currently)...for me, meh.
PS3: some great games but dual-release titles usually better on 360. Great controller.
360: best overall for games even though controller not as good as Sony's
I should add that I love the PS3 as a blu-ray player on my 50" 1080p plasma...
Even if the 360 would be best overall for games (which I don't necessarily agree with), I would say though that if you're going to buy just one, the PS3 covers the bases better - a lot of genres, the best PS3 title is just better, especially I think for someone like Matiasz, who isn't going to play for countless of hours on end. There are two main genres though where the PS3 is currently weak - it has less JRPGs right now, ironically, and it has fewer strategy games (though ironically the JRPG Strategy game on PS3, Valkyria Chronicles, has no equivalent on 360). On the 360, Fable 2 is a well received game, and Tales of Vesperia is currently probably the best JRPG and is not available on PS3 (at least not yet). The Command and Conquer games have not yet been released on the PS3 and it remains to be seen if they ever will. It does have Civilisation Revolutions though so it's not totally left out in this genre.
Another notable exception I can come up with is that in Europe, the 360 has a timed exclusive on Rockband 2, which is out on the US on PS3, but over here we'll have to wait for a bit. On the other hand we do have Guitar Hero World Tour already, and the excellence of SingStar makes up for a lot, especially in Europe because there are native language songs from almost every Western-European country, which I think is awesome, but will hardly be appreciated by U.S. gamers
. Also, an aspect of multi-platform releases that is not looked at very much, check particularly the last post in this thread: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=50415.As for multi-platform games often being better on the 360, I do think it's important to realise that when you have a PS3 and only play the PS3 version, that the 360 version is sometimes a few frames faster or has better anti-aliasing isn't going to bother you - it's not like you're continuously playing them side by side.
All in all, I still think MatiasZ is (perhaps even much) better off with the PS3, even more so as he is in Europe in a non-English speaking country. Something like buying Halo 3 and then only being able to play it in Spanish because that happens to be the only language on the DVD, or being stuck with a French interface when you're native Dutch in a country that is as language concious as Belgium is never going to happen with a Sony release. Can you imagine games in Canada only being playable in French? Whereas games like Resistance, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank and so on you can play in any of 12 European languages and the voice-acting and translations are generally excellent. I personally prefer English and no subtitles, so all I need to do is make that my XMB language. But if I want to have Dutch as my XMB language, I can still switch to English spoken language (or any other) in-game most of the time, and choose English or Dutch subtitles if I want to or if I have visitors, and vice versa. Some friends aren't as good in English and I can play Buzz in Dutch, other times I'll want to play Buzz against English friends. It almost always works great.
I'm disagree with you Arwin… Why choose a console for a support, Blu-ray in is actual format, who probably survive 5 years… For me Blu-ray is like Laserdisc, he arrived to late…or to soon. And don't forget actually we not sure at 100% that the actuals blu-ray players can easily use futur Blu-ray evolution, we can expect but not sure that all blu-ray drives, also PS3 drives, can manage that.
For me the Blu-ray is a immediate and short time argument not a investment for futur.
And also don't forget you can have a 360 and a Blu-ray player near the same price than a PS3.
And in a short time you probably easily find blu-ray player near the 150€, so Blu-ray is not now a advantage for the PS3.
For me the Blu-ray is a immediate and short time argument not a investment for futur.
And also don't forget you can have a 360 and a Blu-ray player near the same price than a PS3.
And in a short time you probably easily find blu-ray player near the 150€, so Blu-ray is not now a advantage for the PS3.
First of all, if you look at what the BluRay format is doing now with the digital copy option, I think this shows that BluRay will be around for a while and separate DVD releases will eventually disappear - they will either be replaced by downloads or by something like the digital copy option (a separate DVD included in the BluRay release with a version you can install to PC or on PSP, iPhone, etc.).
But second, you can argue all you want, but in terms of storage space BluRay matters now and it will matter more in the future. I've had this discussion on this forum plenty of times, but there are enough examples now of compromises made on multi-platform releases (even though almost always the PS3 version will get those same limitations), or 360 exclusives (multi-disc releases, single spoken language support) versus PS3 exclusives (multiple languages on disc is the least disputed one, but if someone on this forum today still argues that several PS3 exclusives use up to 25GB only because they use uncompressed sound or pad the discs I'm going to cry).
For me the Blu-ray is a immediate and short time argument not a investment for futur.
And also don't forget you can have a 360 and a Blu-ray player near the same price than a PS3.
And in a short time you probably easily find blu-ray player near the 150€, so Blu-ray is not now a advantage for the PS3.
Even then, the BluRay drive is silent. The spinning speed related limits of DVD alone will mean that BluRay will be here and stay here for quite a while yet, even in the PC space. Also, the 360's price advantage isn't as big as you make it out, unless you are really going to argue that people like MatiasZ want a 360 without a harddrive. For some people even with the current price difference between the base 360 and PS3 units today the 360 is more expensive.
Usually the best racing and action games are on both the 360 and the PS3. The online communities are more active on 360 from what I've seen but you have to pay. It's worth it if you like online games though.
Controllers are about equal but I prefer the 360's. It all depends on what you personally like the sensitivity and button placement to be like.
It seems that probably the exclusive games and the price are the only major difference to you. Each has a really good line-up in racing and adventure categories by now.
Controllers are about equal but I prefer the 360's. It all depends on what you personally like the sensitivity and button placement to be like.
It seems that probably the exclusive games and the price are the only major difference to you. Each has a really good line-up in racing and adventure categories by now.
After playing 1 year on PS3 i decided replace it for xbox because almost all good games like Resident Evil ,Tekken ,Final Fantasy etc now on xbox and multiplatform games looks better(bad company !! i like this ,runs much better) for the same price, and 360 cheap too, still PS3 have uncharted Also MGS4 has disappointed me, its not game like previous parts and looks like an interactive film
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I'm disagree with you Arwin… Why choose a console for a support, Blu-ray in is actual format, who probably survive 5 years… For me Blu-ray is like Laserdisc, he arrived to late…or to soon. And don't forget actually we not sure at 100% that the actuals blu-ray players can easily use futur Blu-ray evolution, we can expect but not sure that all blu-ray drives, also PS3 drives, can manage that.
For me the Blu-ray is a immediate and short time argument not a investment for futur.
And also don't forget you can have a 360 and a Blu-ray player near the same price than a PS3.
And in a short time you probably easily find blu-ray player near the 150€, so Blu-ray is not now a advantage for the PS3.
You can be 100% certain that the PS3 will be able to playback Blu-Ray movies as long as they update the firmware. There will not be movies based on a different Physical media (example 3 layers) than the current version. For 2 reasons, HD-DVD is dead, no direct competition. 2nd reason, risk of not being backwards compatible.
In regards to your general "Blu-Ray is a dead format" comments, i think they are suited more at a different forum.
Totally agree.
Relating to the OP's query, both system has their different strengths and ultimately it comes down to your preference. Each system has a very good variety in each genre with strong exclusives. It could come down to controller preference to a more silent running system or even perceived value for you currency. Based on the info you provided, I think most agree that you should rule out the Wii.
In spain, is there anyway to rent the each system?
Relating to the OP's query, both system has their different strengths and ultimately it comes down to your preference. Each system has a very good variety in each genre with strong exclusives. It could come down to controller preference to a more silent running system or even perceived value for you currency. Based on the info you provided, I think most agree that you should rule out the Wii.
In spain, is there anyway to rent the each system?
Blu Ray is doing far better than Laser Disc did at a comparable stage, if not already eclipsing whatever sales Laser Disc had in its lifetime.
People complain that Blu Ray players and discs are far too expensive compared to DVD.
Well, I owned a Laser Disc player and discs and they were far more expensive. I paid $600 for my LD player and discs ranged from $40 to over $100 for Criterion releases.
This past weekend, big chain stores were selling Blu Ray players for under $200 and some titles for under $10.
That NEVER happened with LD until the format died and stores were liquidating left-over inventory.
People complain that Blu Ray players and discs are far too expensive compared to DVD.
Well, I owned a Laser Disc player and discs and they were far more expensive. I paid $600 for my LD player and discs ranged from $40 to over $100 for Criterion releases.
This past weekend, big chain stores were selling Blu Ray players for under $200 and some titles for under $10.
That NEVER happened with LD until the format died and stores were liquidating left-over inventory.
I haven't heard of any rental places for consoles, but I could take a look. I'm leaning toward the PS3 for the following facts, in no specific order:
- Singstar
- BluRay
- Design and Look
- Free PSN network
- Similar price after buying the HDD enabled X360, the optional cables and Wifi module
- option to upgrade HDD
- Noise
The games I would play right now are available on the PS3, and since I don't have enough time to play a lot, it's the same to me if there are 15 or 50 top notch games for the platform, as long as the 5 I want to play are available.
Thank you all for the great help. Anything else I should be taking into account?
BTW, the OP mentioned Winning Eleven.
That series is now called Pro Evolution Soccer and it's available on both consoles. Again, people are disappointed in PES compared to the gains made by FIFA.
But if you're interested in PES, you can get user-created kits and rosters easily onto a PS3. All you need is a USB flash stick or an SD card. You can download the kits and transfer from your computer to the PS3.
With the X360, you will need to buy some peripheral for transferring from PC to X360.
That series is now called Pro Evolution Soccer and it's available on both consoles. Again, people are disappointed in PES compared to the gains made by FIFA.
But if you're interested in PES, you can get user-created kits and rosters easily onto a PS3. All you need is a USB flash stick or an SD card. You can download the kits and transfer from your computer to the PS3.
With the X360, you will need to buy some peripheral for transferring from PC to X360.
You'll need an HDMI cable, as there isn't one in the PS3 box, but that's about it.
I've seen some good PS3 bundles here in the UK recently, I'd advise you to look around to see if you can get a free game or two, or game and blu-ray "for free". The games tend to be really good ones (I've seen Uncharted, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, and LittleBigPlanet), and not the usual "getting rid of rubbish game stock" which bundles usually consist of.
I recommend a Bluetooth remote for ease of use. You can use the controller, but the remote makes it easier. Also, if you plan on playing with the girlfried, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a 2nd controller.
Other than that, I think you've got it covered.
Enjoy the world of console gaming.
Other than that, I think you've got it covered.
Enjoy the world of console gaming.
Second controller is more important though ... you're probably not going to play that much and you can easily do everything with the controller. I still haven't got a remote - got enough remotes as it is. My wife is ok with the controller as well. Try it first. If you find yourself watching a lot of DVDs (few DVD players will be as good as the PS3 for playing back DVDs) and BluRays, AND you find yourself missing a remote rather than using the controller, then and only then would I consider the remote. (fortunately it's not that expensive anyway, but every additional remote makes a console less wife friendly )
2nd controller on the other hand is practically essential if you want to do some games with other people (except singstar of course, which comes with two mikes ).
My wife is ok with the controller as well. Try it first. If you find yourself watching a lot of DVDs (few DVD players will be as good as the PS3 for playing back DVDs) and BluRays, AND you find yourself missing a remote rather than using the controller, then and only then would I consider the remote. (fortunately it's not that expensive anyway, but every additional remote makes a console less wife friendly )2nd controller on the other hand is practically essential if you want to do some games with other people (except singstar of course, which comes with two mikes
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