Value of Hardware Unboxed benchmarking

[Shifty Geezer]

Maybe it started as that, but let's be honest, many commenters here have made their mind up about whether HUB is a trusted source or not a long time ago, even before this thread was created. This thread is largely a circle jerk of anti-fans hate-watching HUB content.

I refer you to my comment above:

(I don't know if this thread should be renamed "HUB Discussion" or what, as I still don't know or understand its/their contribution.)

People who have made their mind up HUB has no value - why are they posting here? People who have already decided it's trusted? Why do they post here? Is this just a thread to collect HUB content so it isn't elsewhere, as just a waste-bin to collect it? Should HUB be banned from B3D? Should we rate and approve/cancel content we don't like? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[dorf]

People who have made their mind up HUB has no value - why are they posting here? People who have already decided it's trusted? Why do they post here? Is this just a thread to collect HUB content so it isn't elsewhere, as just a waste-bin to collect it? Should HUB be banned from B3D? Should we rate and approve/cancel content we don't like? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I personally think a waste bin thread is good to have, not criticizing that. I know it works well in some other forums and helps keep other discussions cleaner and more constructive. Plus, I sort of enjoy arguing with super biased people sometimes, they can be impressively imaginative.

Just wanted to call a spade a spade, or rather a hate-thread a hate-thread.

 

[trinibwoy]

Tim and Steve had an interesting exchange on their latest podcast on AMD pricing strategy. Seems they’re not quite on the same page on how to measure value. HUB’s standard measure is raster perf/$ with a cursory acknowledgement that other features also matter. They’re likely (or at least Tim is) feeling a little pressure to expand the definition to account for other things gamers seem to care about like RT, upscaling, encoding etc based on actual sales.

Steve’s take is that it’s fine to keep measuring value based on raster performance but AMD needs a bigger discount vs Nvidia on that metric in order to move units. Tim is leaning in a different direction where AMD needs performance and feature parity (RT included) plus a big discount. His example was that it’s awkward to talk about the 7900 XTX raster advantage over the 4070 Ti Super while ignoring the significant RT deficit vs the same card and declaring the AMD card the better value option.

This has been obvious for a while now but at least half of the HUB duo is coming around to facing reality.

 

[troyan]

Why do you think HUB's stance is that upscaling is not important for consumers? Where do you get the info from? Please provide quotes.

Maybe because it doesnt matter when they recommend GPUs. Here is their list from December 2024 with the $700+:

Let me quote "[...]The DLSS vs. FSR battle is less important if you play a game above 1440p. For example in 4K there is very little difference in visual quality between these upscaling methods.[...]"

Tim is just good cop, Steve the bad cop.

 

[Discord]

Pure raster performance metrics seem less relevant in Professional situations where Cuda and Optix software takes application results to new heights on NV products. Proconsumers endgame is to use the most performant option available. It is not to much of a stretch to apply similar acceptance to GPU game performance measurement situations.