US set to abstain from UN vote

Sabastian said:
Crusher said:
Infidelity is having intercourse with someone who is not your chosen spouse. I don't see how that in any way has a correlation to the legality of sexual acts performed in the relationship between the person and their chosen spouse. They are completely unrelated acts, and a law protecting one cannot possibly be extended to protect another. The people who proclaim that homosexuality is deviant behavior are the same people who proclaim a heterosexual couple engaging in oral or anal sex is displaying deviant behavior (and quite a few states have laws against those acts, too... keep that in mind the next time your wive gives you a BJ).

I don't take so much issue with oral sex, other then it being taught to kids in grade 7.

On the issue of anal sex though there are problems. The stretching of the sphincter muscles over time causes many whom engage in anal sex to have problems to the extent that by the time they are mid aged they cannot hold their feces. In other words they end up wearing diapers. Also they use tampons to congest the area. I won't even bother talking about how much more dangerous it is to have anal sex particularly with regards to STDs and AIDS.

1) Jeez where are you getting your information with regard to anal sphincter stretching. And if you masturbate too often you'll get hairy palms!! :oops:

2) Anal sex presents a higher risk for STD transmission because the lining of the rectum is far more sensitive than vaginal lining, which is why it tears more easily and allows for a higher rate of transmission of sexual diseases.

However, oral sex is a higher risk for STD transmission than kissing is. Does that mean we should stop having oral sex, or those that engage in oral sex are somehow inherently evil because they engage in it? :rolleyes:

p.s.: AIDS is an STD. They are not two separate categories.
 
However, oral sex is a higher risk for STD transmission than kissing is. Does that mean we should stop having oral sex, or those that engage in oral sex are somehow inherently evil because they engage in it? :rolleyes:

Err... am I gonna get shotdown for saying 'yes'?
Heh... digging my own grave now.
 
Sabastian said:
Stvn said:
Let me pose a question to you Sabastian.

What would you say to your child if they told you they were a homosexual? How would you deal with that?

-stvn

http://www.trailblazerscape.org/Articles/somegayschange.html

You're a sad sad man Sabastian. You really are.

What's terrible about people that go through these "orientation change" therapy sessions is that they usually end up with tremendous psychological damage that fucks them up even worse than they were before.

How do I know this to be true? Because there are studies that were done on these orientation change programs from the 60's and 70's. Back then they used electric shock among other things. Actually what am I saying. Some of these programs today use electric shock.

I can see your son or daughter now Sabastian.

"Gee dad. You think gays are disgusting, so you want to fuck me worse than society already tries to huh? Way to go. You really love me."

With the attitude you've got, you don't deserve children.
 
Tahir said:
However, oral sex is a higher risk for STD transmission than kissing is. Does that mean we should stop having oral sex, or those that engage in oral sex are somehow inherently evil because they engage in it? :rolleyes:

Err... am I gonna get shotdown for saying 'yes'?
Heh... digging my own grave now.

No, but you will get shotdown for not putting the "?" inside the quotes with the 'yes.'

Punctuation always goes inside the quotes. ;)
 
With the attitude you've got, you don't deserve children.

You shouldn't judge people like that Natoma. You are breeding hatred nothing more - there is no benefit to Sabastian or even yourself with a statement like that.

Judge not lest you be judged... or something like that.

However other than that, that is all I am going to say. Just try keeping things civil everyone. :)
 
Yeah I have no more time for this today. BTW Natoma I didn't know that http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ . was some sort of Christain site.. I thought you were not a discrimanating person.. Oh well I know that is really a crock. I will reply to you and your frend stvn when I get some time.

Signed
Sad Sad Sabastian :cry:
 
Tahir said:
With the attitude you've got, you don't deserve children.

You shouldn't judge people like that Natoma. You are breeding hatred nothing more - there is no benefit to Sabastian or even yourself with a statement like that.

Judge not lest you be judged... or something like that.

However other than that, that is all I am going to say. Just try keeping things civil everyone. :)

Anyone that would try and force their child to go through that kind of torture doesn't deserve children. There are many parents who will accept their children for who they are and not try to force their own messed up mind jobs on them.
 
Sabastian said:
Yeah I have no more time for this today. BTW Natoma I didn't know that http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ . was some sort of Christain site.. I thought you were not a discrimanating person.. Oh well I know that is really a crock. I will reply to you and your frend stvn when I get some time.

Signed
Sad Sad Sabastian :cry:

Uhm, I said that they were tremendously biased in their slant, not that they were bad. Big difference.

I will stick with scientifically proven studies, such as the Journal of Pediatrics which completely debunks the typical christian rhetoric that says that most sexual molesters of little boys are homosexuals.
 
Natoma said:
Punctuation always goes inside the quotes. ;)

Which is something I really dislike with English standards. It doesn't make sense. Unless you intend to quote the punctuation too it should go outside of the quote.
 
Humus said:
Natoma said:
Punctuation always goes inside the quotes. ;)

Which is something I really dislike with English standards. It doesn't make sense. Unless you intend to quote the punctuation too it should go outside of the quote.

You're with us or against us Humus. You're for the punctuation, or with the terrorists. Get with the program. :rolleyes:
 
Force? I heard no mention of force?
How would you like me to prove I am not using force by showing you that I have used it? I never used it.

But we know you are using it!! - y
I am not forcing anything! Help, stop bullying me!! - x

Anyway this is getting silly. All I saw here was someone say another person didn't deserve to have children because they posted a link (that I do not entirely understand and have based no opinion on because of this fact). You should always keep what comes out of your mouth (or fingers) in check.

Now stop terrorising me and my crappy 'punctuation!'!!

edit: ""!
 
Sabastian said:
My point is that homosexuals are as disgusting to me as pedophiles. The child rights activists and a number of gay and lesbian groups have been trying to lower the age of consent to that they are not molesters under the law. You understand? The notion is really that the laws create morals not the other way around. If you have no law then its ok, moral relativism.

Lets get one thing straight k? Pedophilia is defined as adults having sex with pre-pubescent children. So if you see a 20yr old (man or woman) having sex with a 15 or 16yr old (man or woman), that is *not* pedophilia!

That is breaking the law for the age of consent. I hope we have this distinction set down, because it is pretty damned key. Pubescents, i.e. children who have entered puberty and have become sexually active/aware, can have sex with people that are older than 18 and that is *not* pedophilia.

By what you're trying to define pedophilia as, a teenage couple, one being 18 and the other being 15, should be prosecuted as pedophilia. What if they met when one was 17 and he/she happened to turn 18 a few months later? What then?

Oh wait, this has already been done. A gay teenage couple was broken up in Wyoming a few years ago by the parents of the younger teen. The couple was 16 and 14 when they met. The older one turned 18 when the younger one turned 16, and as soon as that happened, blamo. The parents called the police and had the 18yr old put away for a couple of years for statutory rape, and in the trial, they also accused him of pedophilia because he was 18 and their son was 16!

:rolleyes:
 
Tahir said:
Force? I heard no mention of force?
How would you like me to prove I am not using force by showing you that I have used it? I never used it.

But we know you are using it!! - y
I am not forcing anything! Help, stop bullying me!! - x

Anyway this is getting silly. All I saw here was someone say another person didn't deserve to have children because they posted a link (that I do not entirely understand and have based no opinion on because of this fact). You should always keep what comes out of your mouth (or fingers) in check.

Now stop terrorising me and my crappy 'punctuation!'!!

edit: ""!

Actually, in a sentence with quotes, the punctuation inside the quotes ends the sentence.

For instance, the sentence:

Now stop terrorising me and my crappy 'punctuation!'!!!

should be (and this is with spelling corrections as well :)):

Now stop terrorizing me and my crappy 'punctuation!!!!'

or

Now stop terrorizing me and my crappy 'punctuation!'

-----------

This has been your daily lesson from the Beyond3d spelling and grammar nazi. Please drive safely. :)
 
Humus said:
Well, at times like this it's hard to not be happy to live in a country where same-sex marriage is legal since a number of years and holds all legal rights that other marriages does. The only difference is that it's not called "marriage", but "partnership".

That's the only reason you're still around Humus. The conservatives in our government have been shocked and awed by your country's unbelievable liberty.

Nuclear weapons. Biological weapons. Chemical Weapons. Legalized Same-Sex marriages. They're all formidable deterrents to pre-emptive US invasion, led by the wonderful conservative wing of my country. :)
 
Stvn said:
So how is this different for homosexuality? Is homosexuality simply about the act? I seriously disagree with that. That is the same as saying that your marrige (or my marrige, or any other hetrosexual marrige) is just about "the act". And i would guess that you might disagree with that minimizing description of your married life.

Sex is the act. Love is something altogether different.

I know Natoma pretty well, I have worked with him on and off for over 4 years now. I know that what i see between him and his partner is not "about the act" but a genuine affection and love for one another. Do not try to minimize that which you do not understand, you will almost always be wrong.

Thank you.
 
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