Upscaling Technology Has Become A Crutch

[IQandHDR]

the point of DLSS and so on is that they help to create a high-end experience with low-range or mid-range hardware. I don't think they are using it as a crutch on most games. It's like upscaling on consoles, native 4K is not attainable on many games, so they use upscaling to compensate for that, they have no choice.

I would say it always applies to the high end.
I just went from a 27" 170 Hz IPS to a 42" 144 Hz OLED.
My 4090 is not sufficient to run "CyberPunk 2077 - Phantom Liberty" with PathTracing without DLSS
Or "Black Myth - Wukong"
(And I was running DLAA, not DLSS before, but 4K is a performance killer, so now I have to run DLSS (Quality))

I hope the 5090 will enable me to run DLAA again, because I can see the difference cleary between DLAA and DLSS

 

[IQandHDR]

It also provides anti aliasing in a method that is superior to most temporal algorithms.

So I would say that it’s a necessity at this time. TAA with 4K will very often look worse than DLSS upscaled from a lower resolution.

I’ve seen enough videos and screenshot comparisons where I think many times people attributed the blurriness to being a difference in anisotropic filtering or texture quality between Xbox consoles and PS5, when now thinking back, it’s a likely a result of TAA being slightly better on PS4Pro/5 due to devs incorporating id buffer.

And you can see how large a jump is with NN based anti aliasing. The difference is night and day when it works.

Upscaling is a crutch. But NN based antialiasing is the future, which is often bound to upscaling. I guess another way to look at it is, if you're going to eat the performance cost for superior AA, you may as well claw some of that performance back by reducing the resolution and taking advantage of the upscaling.

Agreed...DLAA is far superior to TAA.
But 4K is a performance killer, so this generation of NVIDIA cards are unable lift the burden in high IQ games.

 

[IQandHDR]

Yep. Back in the crt days you just changed your resolution. Then lcd came out and had a native resolution, but it wasn’t so bad until 4K showed up. 4K is just kind of ridiculous as a native target, especially when it’s getting more and more difficult to produce the hardware to render on.

I will need to try out lower the resolution on my OLED...when I am done enjoyt true black

 

[Nesh]

I will need to try out lower the resolution on my OLED...when I am done enjoyt true black

I totally hated the image quality of the first LCDs. The image was smeared and looked pixelated but everyone was going batshit insane about how great LCD were.
Yes they were great for their size and thickness. But a Sony WEGA was literally pissing on the LCDs

 

[IQandHDR]

I totally hated the image quality of the first LCDs. The image was smeared and looked pixelated but everyone was going batshit insane about how great LCD were.
Yes they were great for their size and thickness. But a Sony WEGA was literally pissing on the LCDs

I had Sony Trinitron CRT's back in the day, so I know what you mean.

This OLED is the first time I am not displeased with the image quality on a monitor since then.

 

[Davros]

What drove me nuts on my first lcd was black wasnt black compared to a crt it was dark grey after a few days I got used to it

 

[ILikeFeet]

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