Naughty Dog explains the aiming system on the single player and multiplayer
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/singleplayer_multiplayer_gun_mechanics/
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/singleplayer_multiplayer_gun_mechanics/
Uncharted 3
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That was an issue in Uncharted 2, good to hear they fixed that.
Yeah no kidding. It really is MUCH more sensitive, and as I said, that's hard to get used to.
Interesting, I hadn't realised that one.
Completed the game on Normal (4:10am now). ^_^
First section is slower and less polished. Second part picks up pace and is more polished.
Gunplay can be frustrating at times (More difficult than U1). Died about 3-5 times every time the battle involves more than 8 enemies. Was able to push through nonetheless.
I like U2 better because the experience is more polished, and pacing is more even.
However U3 is more interesting, more beautiful and less predictable.
Will try MP modes tomorrow.
First section is slower and less polished. Second part picks up pace and is more polished.
Gunplay can be frustrating at times (More difficult than U1). Died about 3-5 times every time the battle involves more than 8 enemies. Was able to push through nonetheless.
I like U2 better because the experience is more polished, and pacing is more even.
However U3 is more interesting, more beautiful and less predictable.
Will try MP modes tomorrow.
It depends on the scene. Some are sharp and nice, but some shadows do have saw edges compared to U2.
Again, depends on the scene. The environment textures are not always blurry. There are quite a few where the environment has fine textures, especially the later ones. The game looks absolutely breathtaking once the story picks up pace. I
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I don't have much problem with aiming. It kinda slows down too fast when near the enemies, but I was able to nudge the cursor in any direction I want.
However the AI is tuned too hard and aggressive. I like smart AI but U3 only gives me 2 regular guns. If I had a fully loaded weapon wheel like R3, or an Enchanted Dragon Greatsword + 10 like in Demon's Souls, I would be jumping with joy. ^_^
The other problem is enemy animation does not register gunshot. Most enemies only react when they get killed.
The only graphics effect I don't like is the nauseous one. You'll know when you see it. Other than that this is the best looking game yet.
I think the SP portion could have used 1 more extra month of polishing. Besides that... It's great for what it is at the moment.
If your product is going to sell out anyone, spending money on advertising is a waste.
Will be getting it for Christmas.
Loving it so far, though still waiting for the BIG set pieces. Chapter 7 or 8 im on. Noticed a few framedrops here and there which i'm putting down to the improved lighting engine. Overall though its top drawer so far. Nice to hear it pick up further at around the halfway point! Gameplay wise, there seems to be many more puzzles compared to U2 which helps the pacing. Onwards and upwards.
Played more last night and the further I get into UC3 the more I prefer UC2. Enemies almost never react to your fire and the game takes controls away from you far too often for my liking. It's almost like "cinematic moment", firefight, "cinematic moment", firefight, etc. There were these moments in UC2 sure, but they weren't nearly as often or disruptive to the flow of the game. If anything the impact of these moments is less since it happens so often.
Yeah but it's much worse in UC3. Not as bad as UC1, but close in some spots.
Also I played a bit more and made it to Chapter 10 IIRC. Really not liking how scripted they made the game.
Huh? I never said the shadowing was detailed, it's actually rather jaggy but the camera is usually pulled far enough away that it's not immediately noticeable. I guess you can say it's accurate with the way it works with the lighting, but detailed it is not. Not sure what is really overwhelming about the game either. It's not nearly as impressive when the game is so scripted, where the devs have control over what's being displayed on the screen at that exact moment. I also never said the AA is "insanely perfect", if anything it's decent to poor since aliasing is evident and looks even worse at times. The MSAA used in UC2 may have been broken at times, but at least when it worked it was much more consistent.
Something tells me you just read what you wanted to read when addressing my impression because what you're describing here is nothing like I mentioned above.
You must be immune to pop-in or just not noticing it, because it's there alright. The story is really good, but that's probably the only thing it's doing better than UC2 so far.
My PS3 is practically brand new since I got my second one earlier this year with a $100 discount and I still experience texture pop in.
Yeah but it's much worse in UC3. Not as bad as UC1, but close in some spots.
Also I played a bit more and made it to Chapter 10 IIRC. Really not liking how scripted they made the game.
Huh? I never said the shadowing was detailed, it's actually rather jaggy but the camera is usually pulled far enough away that it's not immediately noticeable. I guess you can say it's accurate with the way it works with the lighting, but detailed it is not. Not sure what is really overwhelming about the game either. It's not nearly as impressive when the game is so scripted, where the devs have control over what's being displayed on the screen at that exact moment. I also never said the AA is "insanely perfect", if anything it's decent to poor since aliasing is evident and looks even worse at times. The MSAA used in UC2 may have been broken at times, but at least when it worked it was much more consistent.
Something tells me you just read what you wanted to read when addressing my impression because what you're describing here is nothing like I mentioned above.
You must be immune to pop-in or just not noticing it, because it's there alright. The story is really good, but that's probably the only thing it's doing better than UC2 so far.
My PS3 is practically brand new since I got my second one earlier this year with a $100 discount and I still experience texture pop in.
I said I agree in large part with your criticisms, but I guess you don't agree with that. So then I'll modify it and say that I agree in some part with your criticisms.
Walking around in the forest in France with the shadows of the leaves over the very busy environment with rocks, plants and everything, combined with the MLAA perhaps, but certainly the lack of the motion blur when the camera turns makes it even worse. My personal opinion is that it looks very good at times, but sometimes there are just too many individual pixels for me to handle. Maybe I don't notice it. Or maybe I don't run through the game like you do, no idea. You playing with XMB forced to 720?
Is this happening for most people playing the game? Or is it a varying problem for some players?
I don't have the game yet so I wouldn't know.
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I noticed texture loading exactly once right at the beginning of the game: on the brick walls of the alley you and your comrades enter to avoid the cops right after the pub (same on my second run through the game). Never again afterwards though, so no big deal.
I saw texture pop-in exactly once in the
. It's a bug though, not performance related. Since I can repro the same exact issue by standing on the same spot and varying my viewing angle (back and forth). ^_^
Likely depends on players. I don't suffer from it but I was also indifferent to the original KZ2 aim issue.
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Likely depends on players. I don't suffer from it but I was also indifferent to the original KZ2 aim issue.
Yes, at first it felt kinda slow but warm and fuzzy. The next thing I know, when I looked up and saw the clock, it's already after 4am (Mission accomplished).
Gameplay-wise. they nailed the mix. It's just that the AI is too difficult. Not only do they try their best to kill you, they can also block your move (if you try to run in the middle of a melee). At one point when I died, I saw 5 enemies around me. I thought I was fighting only 2. ^_^
If you stick to one spot, you will be killed quickly.
Would be interesting to see what you think after you have completed the game. ^_^
Visually I like U3 more than U2. It's more pretty, varied and elegant at its best moments.
Gameplay-wise I like U2 just because it's more even/polished and less frustrating. But I like U3's style better (If only they tuned the AI down).
This I agree. Sony need to rely less on spoiling the game when marketing it. In SP, they keep showing some of the nice scenes. In MP, they give out unpolished betas.
It will vary by TV. Would be interesting to see what kind of TV he has, and if he has it in gaming mode, or if he has heavy image processing turned on. Hopefully the game is not incredibly laggy on its own. Or they can try to sell it as "weighty" and call say it adds realism. Obviously some people are more sensitive. Hopefully it doesn't vary by player. My PS3 might not like me vary much, so I hope it doesn't punish me with input lag.
Yes, at first it felt kinda slow but warm and fuzzy. The next thing I know, when I looked up and saw the clock, it's already after 4am (Mission accomplished).
Gameplay-wise. they nailed the mix. It's just that the AI is too difficult. Not only do they try their best to kill you, they can also block your move (if you try to run in the middle of a melee). At one point when I died, I saw 5 enemies around me. I thought I was fighting only 2. ^_^
If you stick to one spot, you will be killed quickly.
I went straight in on hard btw.
