Fafalada said:
.... Faf.... STOP DOING THAT!!! I actually googled Giantology.....
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.... Faf.... STOP DOING THAT!!! I actually googled Giantology.....
what they meant was :
ps3 core pack (just ps3 with regular bleuray movie playback)
ps3 value pack (with built in harddisk etc..)
they will see how the x360 sells in those configs and will try to do the same
Remember sony launched their psp in core and valuepack in japan and the valuepack was a very big succes. thats why they dropped the standart pack in the EU and USA
(50 euro extra for 5euro of equipment extra you get, nice business!)
thats it.
this news is fully supported by me
ps3 core pack (just ps3 with regular bleuray movie playback)
ps3 value pack (with built in harddisk etc..)
they will see how the x360 sells in those configs and will try to do the same
Remember sony launched their psp in core and valuepack in japan and the valuepack was a very big succes. thats why they dropped the standart pack in the EU and USA
(50 euro extra for 5euro of equipment extra you get, nice business!)
thats it.
this news is fully supported by me
I disagree. BluRay means bigger games. If they sacrifice BluRay it means games need to be released solely on DVDs for compatibility. Which means there's no need to buy the BluRay version unless you want to play BluRay movies. And there aren't any BluRay movies.
Losing the BluRay drive loses the trojan 'n million BluRay players in homes' horse. No longer are these players sat there waiting for content, and the advantage of BluRay in PS3 goes out the window meaning it's a straight fight player vs. player in the HD format war.
Given the benefit to Sony for winning the format war outright, they'll postpone PS3 to get BluRay drive in there rather than launch without. Unless they're insane.
Losing the BluRay drive loses the trojan 'n million BluRay players in homes' horse. No longer are these players sat there waiting for content, and the advantage of BluRay in PS3 goes out the window meaning it's a straight fight player vs. player in the HD format war.
Given the benefit to Sony for winning the format war outright, they'll postpone PS3 to get BluRay drive in there rather than launch without. Unless they're insane.
Won what battle? The Blue ray vrs HDDVD? sure, but what's more important? winning the high def DVD battle or winning the console battle. Putting blueray in ps3 was always a risky move from many pespectives. They sorta have a gut check coming up. They need to ask themselves if the benefits of having blue ray in PS3 will out weigh the potential risks.
Shifty,
I think sony would be more crazy to delay PS3 over blueray. Blueray doesn't necessarily mean bigger games. what it does mean is more expensive disk production costs for publishers, less manufacturing choices, having to delay PS3 titles being worked on, and for sony delaying thier launch further could allow MS to sell even more units and gain a foothold in what is currently thier market to lose. From my what I've seen with every console launch, I don't think the majority of games will even need a disk with the cpacity of Blue ray.
think about blue ray form a publisher perspective. I mean sure, you'll see most publishers come out and say 'it allows us to make better games" but that isn't really a concern to them. What is a concern is "money". publishers don't care if develoeprs can fill one, two or three DVD's with content. what they do care is how much does this extra space needed for the game cost them.
Yes it would be sny's trojan horse, but not at the risk of losing market share in the one market that is profitable for this company. That would really be foolish.
I think sony would be more crazy to delay PS3 over blueray. Blueray doesn't necessarily mean bigger games. what it does mean is more expensive disk production costs for publishers, less manufacturing choices, having to delay PS3 titles being worked on, and for sony delaying thier launch further could allow MS to sell even more units and gain a foothold in what is currently thier market to lose. From my what I've seen with every console launch, I don't think the majority of games will even need a disk with the cpacity of Blue ray.
think about blue ray form a publisher perspective. I mean sure, you'll see most publishers come out and say 'it allows us to make better games" but that isn't really a concern to them. What is a concern is "money". publishers don't care if develoeprs can fill one, two or three DVD's with content. what they do care is how much does this extra space needed for the game cost them.
Yes it would be sny's trojan horse, but not at the risk of losing market share in the one market that is profitable for this company. That would really be foolish.
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I'd say the BluRay battle is more important. PlayStation will sell anyway. Delaying an extra 3-6 months will give XB360 and extra what...1-3 million users? If those 1-3 million users are lost from PS3 (that is were going to get PS3 but decide instead to get XB360), that'll cost Sony how much? They'll save a lot on the initial hardware and lose, net, only some million in dollars I guess, maybe tens of millions. Which is next to nothing in the long term. Sony can pursue all sorts of other ways to get customers with their clever marketting and already immensely strong brand. Whereas they only have ONE chance to get BluRay inot their console so it's in every PS3 owners house, who without it as tandard will likely buy the cheap version as BluRay adds absolutely nothing other than movie playback. And that'll cost Sony billions in long-term BluRay revenues.
I can't see how delaying 6 months will cost Sony a substantial cut of the market. What they lose in early adopters and a few months extra sales, they can use to strengthen launch lineup and increase demand. Unless they really piss the devs off who are waiting to release their PS3 software, and they all go elsewhere and PS3 gets no software which kills the console...
I can't see how delaying 6 months will cost Sony a substantial cut of the market. What they lose in early adopters and a few months extra sales, they can use to strengthen launch lineup and increase demand. Unless they really piss the devs off who are waiting to release their PS3 software, and they all go elsewhere and PS3 gets no software which kills the console...
V3 said:
Oh erm did it? I can't even remember err...
Hey i'm like The Inquirer, one day i'll get the right one!!
Nesh said:
Can't say yet.
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I love you, LB. Well, actually I just love your rumors. Without them, you're just another lad.london-boy said:
I feel your love. And everyone else's. Really i do.
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I can see the Sony apologists right now if this turns out to be true:
"This is the best move ever! Sony is giving their userbase a choice. How nice of them!"
"PS3 will definately debut at no more than $400! Not everyone wants Blu-Ray!"
"My TV doesn't accept HDMI, so I can't watch Blu-Ray movies anyways! I win!"
"Sony gives gamers a choice. No one loses!"
"Even Sony's "'Tard Pack" is equal the Xbox 360 Premium. So what does that make the Core System? The Quadrapalegic Pack?
I'd love to be on the Internet if this was true. Hours and hours of fun!
"This is the best move ever! Sony is giving their userbase a choice. How nice of them!"
"PS3 will definately debut at no more than $400! Not everyone wants Blu-Ray!"
"My TV doesn't accept HDMI, so I can't watch Blu-Ray movies anyways! I win!"
"Sony gives gamers a choice. No one loses!"
"Even Sony's "'Tard Pack" is equal the Xbox 360 Premium. So what does that make the Core System? The Quadrapalegic Pack?
I'd love to be on the Internet if this was true. Hours and hours of fun!
while I doubt this rumor pretty heavily, it would make sence I mean we don't really NEED blu-ray to make next gen possible, it would be nice but not if they can't ATLEAST get a 4X player in the PS3 anything less than tjhat would make loading times just out of control, we all know first gen drives suck ass nio matter who makes them and yes they will be very costly to Sony. So like I said I doubt this to be true I could see it happening.
Out of curiosity, why should this be? With the first CD drives it made sense as it was new tech, and DVD...same sort of tech but developing new hardware still...maybe things could go wrong. (I'm not sure what does go wrong or why first gen drives are bad BTW). But with a couple of decades developing optical drives, that all use the same tech principles, why should BluRay suffer problems? I mean, PSP is a first-gen version of the UMD format but I'm not hearing any problems. And won't things like a thinner coating actually be easier? Is the problem simply a matter of motor components accurate enough for the small track sizes?c0_re said:
Can some smart egg explain what the possible weaknesses for a launch blue-laser drive are? And then explain, why if you're such a smart egg, you're reading one of LB's rumour posts!
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