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The NVIDIA DX10 AGP Thread
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Jawed
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It'll be interesting to see if it outperforms your X800. I can't say I'm optimistic.
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This is the replacement for 7600, not 7800. It's marginally possible, I suppose.
Perhaps it's more compelling as an SM4 versus SM2b GPU, than for performance per se.
Jawed
Bandwidth. Midrange-solutions typically have 128bit Bus. Might be situations where a X800 comes out on top.
Im looking forward to a 8600 GS/GT too, hopefully there will be passive solutions as well. Still have that 9700 Pro doing its duty, but a few games last year really do make it sweat.
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I don't think there are any AGP motherboards produced any more, so it's just a matter of time before you can only find it in musea.
More options = gooder, this is great news. 
actully there are sevral still made, all are micro ATX based on the KM800 for AMD not sure about intel though
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I can see myself getting some variant of it despites having such an outdated PC (XP2400+).
I prefer nvidia, and geforce 8 is the first one with both great AA and AF.
geforce 3/4/FX : bad AA, good filtering. (no problem with AA 2x but the higher modes suck)
geforce 6/7 : good AA, bad filtering
geforce 8 : best AA and filtering ever.
I don't mind if I'm playing far cry, a quake 3 or a doom 3 powered game but I love AA and AF.
I prefer nvidia, and geforce 8 is the first one with both great AA and AF.
geforce 3/4/FX : bad AA, good filtering. (no problem with AA 2x but the higher modes suck)
geforce 6/7 : good AA, bad filtering
geforce 8 : best AA and filtering ever.
I don't mind if I'm playing far cry, a quake 3 or a doom 3 powered game but I love AA and AF.
Well theres always this...
P4Dual-880Pro
http://www.custompc.co.uk/custompc/reviews/86404/asrock-p4dual880pro.html
More options = gooder, this is great news.
Game developer point of view:
More options = more possible configurations that need to be consider.
Sorry if this sounds not very customer friendly but since I am responsible for the performance of our game every new variable cause some more headaches.
How does an AGP DX10 card figure into supportability issues for you? I'm serious, I don't know. It seems to me that a video card is a video card, regardless if it's on AGP or PCI-E. Can you provide me an example where supporting a 7600 is "different" on AGP than PCI-E?
Less bandwidth between GPU and system memory?
By what percentage though, really? We're talking about a midrange solution; and GPU bench doesn't show much difference between PCI-E readback and AGP readback speeds (around 500mb/sec for both).
If bandwidth to system memory is such a valid concern, you'd still have to eat the same number of antacids over the 8x PCI-E lanes to SLI or Crossfire video cards when you need to send that data 2x over AGP-like bandwidth anyway.
Others?
Edit: That link is about H264 motion compensation, but dig further and they start talking about performance impact from various sources, to include AGP and PCI-E bandwidth issues. In the end, they found that they effectively had generally the same useable bandwidth...
Wasn't the 7600GT just as fast as the 6800GS for the most part? I would expect another generation yet again and the new card would be faster still a bit, so yeah I would say the card is almost certainly going to be faster than a X800. Plus you can play some of the games that required a SM3.0 part.