The LAST R600 Rumours & Speculation Thread
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I think the time difference there is more related to the process (65nm).
So much for Level505's insurmountable problems in providing a pic that wouldn't get the source busted, eh?
Edit: The above is not meant to vouch for the authenticity of this picture, btw. . . just to note that I think that vaselined pic would be enough to tell someone who has seen a real R600 of that configuration if it was real or not, while obviously making any unique board identifiers useless.
I think that if I were a betting man, I'd be getting to the point of being willing to bet on the last week of March thru the first week of April. With Richard's statement still so fresh, I don't believe they'll slip into April for announcement, but I suppose it's not out of the question they could let availability slip a week or two (tho I have no particular reasons to think so on that point one way or the other). And no, we aren't under NDA, and no we don't have a date. That's from sniffing the air. It's beginning to smell like launch season.
icecold1983
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im not expecting g81 to be much faster than g80, similar to the 9800 xt over the pro. i just dont see what they can do to improve performance much since people have already oced the card pretty heavily and the results are pretty much 2 or 3 fps faster.
That's only because the games in question aren't very GPU-limited at the settings in question. ATI will run into the same problem.
Iron Tiger
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So the question becomes "which will perform faster in the games that you would buy one of these cards for?" Stuff like UT3, Crysis, Hellgate London, or even Flight Simulator X.
vertex_shader
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OK, so is that late AND soft launch?
Leaks coming for the OEM cards,i think OEM version will be a hard launch, retail version a paper launch ,availability ~2 weeks after card is launched, i still hope AMD surprise as with a retail hard launch.
icecold1983
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im not sure i understand your point, theres def games that are gpu limited.
everquest 2
coh
oblivion
trackmania united
dark messiah
just cause
those are just the some of the games ive personally played recently where the g80 is the bottleneck rather than my cpu.
vertex_shader
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Maybe this is why the name will be x2900 and not x2800
Or it could be because they know a R600 refresh is still far away, and it would never be here in time for G81 (8900).
So, in order to keep some parity at least on the numbering scheme, they could have decided to stick with X2900 right from the start, reserving the X2950 moniker for that part instead.
If R600 isn't going to be here sooner than April as someone said a few posts back, then the refresh might not make it to the back-to-school season, and this time there's no "problem with third party libraries" that we know of.
It doesn't just depend upon the game, but also the specific benchmark.
Regardless, if you overclock the core and memory by 10%, the GPU's performance will increase by 10%. But it will only reach that increase while it is GPU-limited.
There's also the possibility of a new driver release improving performance.
overclocked_enthusiasm
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That makes perfect sense to me. That earlier OEM launch still sounds like those A12 cards being gobbled up first before the A15 cards are released into the channel. So perhaps a hard OEM launch with retail several weeks later? Since we are talking April gaian, IF R600 isn't better than G81...wow is all I can say.
The April estimate was given quite a long time back (CJ), I suppose its a deadline.
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