The G92 Architecture Rumours & Speculation Thread

[nicolasb]

From the estimated specs I have seen for the top 2950Pro (825MHz, 320sp and 2.4GHz GDDR) that is more in competition with 8800GTX and so be the top end, not mid range at all.

256-bit bus, though, according to rumours. That's not "high-end".

 

[AnarchX]

More pictures of 8800GT:

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=298&t=413501&p=2

 

[Megadrive1988]

so it seems we'll have to wait for Nvidia's true "high end" refresh of the G80 / 8800.

It makes sense if it's not out until Q1 or Q2 2008 since R700 isn't due until Q2

 

[vertex_shader]

Thats 2950XT and the enemy should be a 8800GTS with 112SPs/28TMUs:

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=298&t=413501&last=3742976

Why new cards with more SP/TMU coming with the same branding name?

Looks like NV got scared from rv670 and try to use the strategy what ATi using almost always, 112SP/28TMU G80 can steal the show for rv670 easily, but this card can be a nightmare for Jen-Hsun Huang because of the low margin :smile:

 

[vertex_shader]

Some vr-zone rumor/fud:
8800GT score 10769 in 3dmark2k6
No configuration info so its useless, not p4 celeron-d used for sure with 512mb memory

GeForce 8800 GT Overclocking Is Good

 

[AnarchX]

Why new cards with more SP/TMU coming with the same branding name?

AIBs have the choice of the name in this case, my bet -> 8800GTO.

 

[vertex_shader]

AIBs have the choice of the name in this case, my bet -> 8800GTO.

Last time NV was in this situation in the nv30 time when come out against 9600XT with the 5900XT, so its possible we see 8800XT or PRO cards

Edit: just noticed in the source:

NVIDIA will NOT be doing any formal launch activities, press announcements, website updates, or any other marketing around this new sku. Partners can conduct their own marketing activities around the sku as they see fit.

November after Nvidia and ATI confrontation situation as follows:

GeForce 8800 Ultra vs. ?
GeForce 8800 GTX vs. ?
GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB (new) vs. Radeon HD 2900 XT
GeForce 8800 GT 512MB vs. RV670XTX
GeForce 8800 GT 256MB vs. RV670Pro

 

[satein]

So, this is only the sink of G80, isn't it? Why can NV find the way to fix the NVIO-1 ASIC chip on the same die? Or this G92 has embeded the NVIO-1 on the core already?

 

[INKster]

So, this is only the sink of G80, isn't it? Why can NV find the way to fix the NVIO-1 ASIC chip on the same die? Or this G92 has embeded the NVIO-1 on the core already?

Looking at the back of the PCB, i believe that there's no separate NVIO in this card.

 

[trinibwoy]

for people that don't care much about the high end because of cost and power, there's a reason to be excited. that's awesome midrange which goes well with the awesome parts you get in a midrange PC nowadays (a high X2 or a "low" C2D, 2GB ram, 500GB hdd)

Sure it's great for people who shop in that segment. But these releases do nothing to push the performance envelope or introduce anything new architecturally. So while better midrange parts are nice they're not bringing anything new to the table especially if you already own a faster card. Just disappointed that there's nothing new to talk about until Q1 08 apparently......

 

[satein]

Looking at the back of the PCB, i believe that there's no separate NVIO in this card.

If you read on the SKU table, you might found it... or I might be wrong to read the wrong table

PS. I probably read the wrong table ... but why they need to put the old SKU table on the new part thread....

 

[INKster]

If you read on the SKU table, you might found it... or I might be wrong to read the wrong table

That table refers to the 8800 GTS (old and "new" -which could either be called simply "8800 GTS" again or "8800 GTO", according to some of Nvidia's partners-), not 8800 GT, a.k.a. G92.

The new 112 sp "8800 GTS 640MB" doesn't even have to be named a "8800 GTS", it's merely a stop-gap solution to prevent the 8800 GT from stealing its customers (since this first G92 is already rumored to be hitting ~11k in 3DMark'06 at stock speeds) and, at the same time, to help in depleting the old 90nm G80 stock.

 

[satein]

That table refers to the 8800 GTS (old and "new" -which could either be called simply "8800 GTS" again or "8800 GTO", according to some of Nvidia's partners-), not 8800 GT, a.k.a. G92.

Ok, Thx you Just confusing...

 

[NonNative]

So there will be new 8800GTS(G92) and old 8800GTS(G80) ?

If they really used same name how we can tell which one is G80 or G92 ? @_@

 

[trinibwoy]

The "new" GTS is still 90nm. A good way to bump up performance at $400 and confuse everyone while doing so. Hopefully AIB's have some sense and name this thing GTO or something besides GTS.

 

[Geo]

According to FUDzilla, the G92 launch has been brought forward to October 29th:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3403&Itemid=1

Fudo has often in the past confused an editors day with a "launch" date. Which is not necessarily to say that's what's happening here, but it wouldn't be the first time.

 

[AnarchX]

Also @Mobile1 is said that 8800GT and New-GTS will launch on 28th.

 

[NonNative]

Everything confusing here.

What's the advantage of new GTS over the old one ?
What's G92 based graphic name now ?

 

[INKster]

Everything confusing here.

What's the advantage of new GTS over the old one ?
What's G92 based graphic name now ?

Before:
8800 GTS (320/640MB): 90nm G80 with 96 scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTX/Ultra 768MB: 90nm G80 with 128 scalar processors enabled.


Now:
8800 GT (256/512MB): new 65nm G92 GPU with x scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTS (320/640MB) -presumably old stocks-: same as before.
"new" 8800 GTS 640MB: same as before, but with 112 scalar processors enabled on the same 90nm G80.

This last one might end up being called "8800 GTO" by some partners.

 

[NonNative]

Before:
8800 GTS (320/640MB): 90nm G80 with 96 scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTX/Ultra 768MB: 90nm G80 with 128 scalar processors enabled.


Now:
8800 GT (256/512MB): new 65nm G92 GPU with x scalar processors enabled.
8800 GTS (320/640MB) -presumably old stocks-: same as before.
"new" 8800 GTS 640MB: same as before, but with 112 scalar processors enabled on the same 90nm G80.

This last one might end up being called "8800 GTO" by some partners.

What's benefit of 112 scalar processors ? make GTS faster ?