The Annual E3 Microsoft press conference thread, 2017 edition
Phil Spencer said some months ago that he didn't feel like they were ready to push VR on console quite yet and felt that the PC platform was a better one for them to figure things out on.
that's a great idea, I am going to do the same.
more or less that, console price aside. The conference would be great because they did the right thing, showing games and more games. The problem I see with it is that I expected another Perfect Dark game, Age of Empires, Kameo... etc. But there is no investment on Xbox exclusives as in the past.
Phil Spencer didn't look nervous to me. But he didn't look overly enthusiastic when he announced the price, maybe he knew people's reaction after Geoff's leak.
I'm just catching up a little...really dont even have that much desire to dig that deep into catching up with this presser though.
I'm not sure if it's me getting older or the fault is we hit a wall of graphical diminishing returns right at the PS3/360 generation (those PS3/360 E3's tended to blow me away, but none from this gen have), all I know is the past few e3's have really failed to blow me away in any way shape or form like they used to. This was no exception.
Anthem looked pretty cool. both graphically and Destiny-like.
The new Metro look OK I guess. We have to have females front and center in every game trailer I guess, it's a little forced. I was never the biggest fan of these on PC, but there they were heavily ridden by bugs which shouldn't be an issue on consoles. The graphics were good, but again just not knocking me over.
Fora 7, ok. all I can think here is this is 4k 60. Does it look so much better (or even as good) as Drive Club's rain? I dont know. That's EIGHT (8, Ocho, VIII) times as much force to get the same graphics at 4k/60 as at 1080/30. Eight times. 8X is basically a generational leap in power. Is it really worth it? Just do some 30 FPS checkerboarding...ok you cant do Forza at 30 FPS (although why not, Drive Club was), but you know what I mean. This is a consequence of pushing strict 4k too much.
The Last Night, cool. Doesn't blow me away but cool.
Xbox One X. Form factor, I really like it. Sleek and black. Upper echelon for console form factors IMO. Is it different than regular Xbox One case? It looks better to me somehow.
499. High. I strongly expected 399 or at worst 449. So, color me wrong. I dont know though, I should have known...12GB RAM? a Titan X doesn't have 12 GB GDDR5...
Will be interesting to see what Sony does with Ps4 Pro price now. I expect them to leave it 399.
I can excuse the price somewhat because at least they got the more important part, the power part, down. With Xbox One they tried to sell a weak console for 499, remember that debacle?! So, this is much better. And you can always lower the price later, but you're stuck with the hardware. So, 499 isn't good, but I feel like the power will shine through anyways, sooner or later. Also for me personally, I'm looking at it after some thought like, with full BC I can sell off my XBO no worries, and I should be able to get ~200 for that, making the upgrade price $300, which isn't bad.
I'm not sure if it's me getting older or the fault is we hit a wall of graphical diminishing returns right at the PS3/360 generation (those PS3/360 E3's tended to blow me away, but none from this gen have), all I know is the past few e3's have really failed to blow me away in any way shape or form like they used to. This was no exception.
Anthem looked pretty cool. both graphically and Destiny-like.
The new Metro look OK I guess. We have to have females front and center in every game trailer I guess, it's a little forced. I was never the biggest fan of these on PC, but there they were heavily ridden by bugs which shouldn't be an issue on consoles. The graphics were good, but again just not knocking me over.
Fora 7, ok. all I can think here is this is 4k 60. Does it look so much better (or even as good) as Drive Club's rain? I dont know. That's EIGHT (8, Ocho, VIII) times as much force to get the same graphics at 4k/60 as at 1080/30. Eight times. 8X is basically a generational leap in power. Is it really worth it? Just do some 30 FPS checkerboarding...ok you cant do Forza at 30 FPS (although why not, Drive Club was), but you know what I mean. This is a consequence of pushing strict 4k too much.
The Last Night, cool. Doesn't blow me away but cool.
Xbox One X. Form factor, I really like it. Sleek and black. Upper echelon for console form factors IMO. Is it different than regular Xbox One case? It looks better to me somehow.
499. High. I strongly expected 399 or at worst 449. So, color me wrong. I dont know though, I should have known...12GB RAM? a Titan X doesn't have 12 GB GDDR5...
Will be interesting to see what Sony does with Ps4 Pro price now. I expect them to leave it 399.
I can excuse the price somewhat because at least they got the more important part, the power part, down. With Xbox One they tried to sell a weak console for 499, remember that debacle?! So, this is much better. And you can always lower the price later, but you're stuck with the hardware. So, 499 isn't good, but I feel like the power will shine through anyways, sooner or later. Also for me personally, I'm looking at it after some thought like, with full BC I can sell off my XBO no worries, and I should be able to get ~200 for that, making the upgrade price $300, which isn't bad.
why thank you. I'm also upgrading my cpu most likely to zen
My friend has a 60 inch LG oled 4k HDR tv. Playing some pc games on his 1080ti set up is amazing and hdr doesn't even work yet. I think we just have to see it in person to get the full effect of what is happening here.
The ps4 pro will most likely drop , retailers have already had it for sub $400 with promotions. I'm not sure its a big seller
Just putting in my thoughts here. We had a viewing party with 4K HDR OLED screen. Wow. Really it was something else. Going back home and watching it on my 1080p screen without HDR is a stunning difference is visual quality.
Not just some of the games, almost all of the games. Jaw dropping moments were anthem and Forza 7, kudos to shadow of war. You could tell which games were ready for 4K HDR in mind and which ones weren't.
Overall pretty happy with the conference, though big fears with crackdown. Very happy with the indie titles on display.
XBOX is only 600 CAD. So will buy it.
cheaper than in the US. Now to get that TV
Not just some of the games, almost all of the games. Jaw dropping moments were anthem and Forza 7, kudos to shadow of war. You could tell which games were ready for 4K HDR in mind and which ones weren't.
Overall pretty happy with the conference, though big fears with crackdown. Very happy with the indie titles on display.
XBOX is only 600 CAD. So will buy it.
cheaper than in the US. Now to get that TV 
I think my spoils of my watching are the following, hardto tell as I only noticed them in my recently installed list:
The Final Station
No Time to Explain
Hawken starter pack
Kinsano Leader Pack for Halo Wars 2
Minecraft Redstone Specialists Skin Pack
I didn't get a raise until I changed job, inflation is a myth!Technically XBOX is less if you consider inflation.
The entirety of the Mixer MixPot Rewards are as follows (list taken from TrueAchievements):
Those who did not watch via Mixer still have opportunities to pickup the rewards by logging in to Mixer to watch any of the Xbox Daily shows during E3 this week.
I believe these are the times:
Monday, June 12, from 3:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
Tuesday, June 13, from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
Wednesday, June 14, from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
Thursday, June 15, from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
- Rare Replay (full game download)
- Halo Wars 2 "Kinsano Leader Pack" (with special bonus of 3 Blitz Packs for Xbox One players)
- Minecraft: Xbox One Edition "Redstone Specialists Skin Pack"
- Forza Horizon 3 "Halo Warthog"
- HAWKEN "Starter Pack"
- No Time To Explain (full game download)
- The Final Station (full game download)
Those who did not watch via Mixer still have opportunities to pickup the rewards by logging in to Mixer to watch any of the Xbox Daily shows during E3 this week.
I believe these are the times:
Monday, June 12, from 3:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
Tuesday, June 13, from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
Wednesday, June 14, from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
Thursday, June 15, from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. PDT
LOL. I guess a lot people had different expectations than me.
I am not sure why people expected a $400 tag.
In 2013 if you bought a xbo you were spending about $380 per Tflop. If you bought a launch PS4 that number works out to about $216 per. In 2016 a PS4 Pro cost you about $95 per Tflop with a 24% increase in bandwidth over the base PS4.
The XBOX offers a rate of $80 dollars per Tflop with a 50% increase in bandwidth and amount of RAM over a PS4 Pro. And on top of it all, MS is giving it to you in a package that's basically a Xbox One X Slim.
The $500 dollar price tag doesn't bother me at all. Primarily, because if this was a new gen even a $400 box would warrant additional spending on accessories like an extra controller, charging station and because this is an Xbox, a couple of charge and play kits. That $500 is mostly going towards the hardware itself.
I am not sure why people expected a $400 tag.
In 2013 if you bought a xbo you were spending about $380 per Tflop. If you bought a launch PS4 that number works out to about $216 per. In 2016 a PS4 Pro cost you about $95 per Tflop with a 24% increase in bandwidth over the base PS4.
The XBOX offers a rate of $80 dollars per Tflop with a 50% increase in bandwidth and amount of RAM over a PS4 Pro. And on top of it all, MS is giving it to you in a package that's basically a Xbox One X Slim.
The $500 dollar price tag doesn't bother me at all. Primarily, because if this was a new gen even a $400 box would warrant additional spending on accessories like an extra controller, charging station and because this is an Xbox, a couple of charge and play kits. That $500 is mostly going towards the hardware itself.
Silent_Buddha
Legend
One thing I can't wait for is a tear down of the XBO-X. I know that in the XBO there was a lot of empty space inside to facilitate the console being as quiet as possible while watching media, but the size of the XBO-X is really surprising. Especially when you consider that the SOC is likely quite a bit more difficult to cool (generates significantly more heat) but the PSU is internal now as well.
It does make you wonder. If they had decided not pursue quiet operation so much, and instead emphasized size similar to the XBO-X, it may have ended up being shockingly small.
Regards,
SB
It does make you wonder. If they had decided not pursue quiet operation so much, and instead emphasized size similar to the XBO-X, it may have ended up being shockingly small.
Regards,
SB
if you look at it as the high end Xbox One, and that it clearly brings advantages over the PS4 Pro, the price seems around where it should be.
also coming from more of the PC side, if you look at what happened with graphics cards pricing since 2011, this looks a lot better than expected, the specs on this machine are fairly high, 384bit 12GB GDDR5 and so on.
also coming from more of the PC side, if you look at what happened with graphics cards pricing since 2011, this looks a lot better than expected, the specs on this machine are fairly high, 384bit 12GB GDDR5 and so on.
