Suuare Enix doesn't know what PS3 will be?

[Nesh]

I think it will be a very very good strategy if PS3 is compatible with all kinds of HDs.

I am sure that if the PS2 was compatible with various HDs for various uses many (if not most) PS2 owners would have attached one to their console and bought FF9 afterwards since they could play it.

Buying an expensive HD that could be used only on PS2 only to play FF9 was a bad idea for the consumer.

 

[weaksauce]

I think it will be a very very good strategy if PS3 is compatible with all kinds of HDs.

I am sure that if the PS2 was compatible with various HDs for various uses many (if not most) PS2 owners would have attached one to their console and bought FF9 afterwards since they could play it.

Buying an expensive HD that could be used only on PS2 only to play FF9 was a bad idea for the consumer.

You mean FFXI? PS2 HDD is also used for the linux. (and memcard and loads faster I think)

The only thing I don't like is that it's 2,5". I don't know if it's cheaper to produce but they sure won't sell it cheaper, and it's not as fast either.

 

[GB123]

I think it will be a very very good strategy if PS3 is compatible with all kinds of HDs.

I am sure that if the PS2 was compatible with various HDs for various uses many (if not most) PS2 owners would have attached one to their console and bought FF9 afterwards since they could play it.

Buying an expensive HD that could be used only on PS2 only to play FF9 was a bad idea for the consumer.

Sony make a killing off their peripherals so i don't think they would be willing to lose out on HDD sales.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Perhaps, but the presence of CF and SD readers shows they aren't sticking to a proprietary only format. MS also is a lot more consumer friendly than traditional memory cards. I remember reading recently that there's a game for PS2 that can use Flash Drives on the USB port. Perhaps their attitudes are changing. Encouraging HDD adoption will only help in selling content, and that is Sony's primary goal. Letting other suppliers compete to sell HDDs will only help in HDD adoption as prices drop and more people add them to their PS3s, while Sony can continue to sell music, 'movies', games and whatnot to fill those HDDs up at considerably higher profit margins than an HDD peropheral would ever get them. Well, an HDD peripheral that people would buy anyway. Selling a totally overpriced HDD (a la PS2) may provide great margins but will limit adoption.

 

[bbot]

Did microsoft knew? they announced that just couple of months before the launch. until then, they claimed a harddisk was standard.

Well, Square-Enix announced Final Fantasy XI for Xbox 360 as early as May 16, 2005, months before the launch of Xbox 360.

http://www.square-enix.com/na/company/press/2005/05162005/

 

[scooby_dooby]

Perhaps, but the presence of CF and SD readers shows they aren't sticking to a proprietary only format.

How so? 'storage media' is simply that, it doesn't indicate whether or not you will be able to save games to that media. 360 supports all kinda of storage media, external HDD's, usb keycards, ipod, but only allows proprietary formats to be used for game saves.

 

[c0_re]

How so? 'storage media' is simply that, it doesn't indicate whether or not you will be able to save games to that media. 360 supports all kinda of storage media, external HDD's, usb keycards, ipod, but only allows proprietary formats to be used for game saves.

Of course, they have to milk us for every penny. Not to mention I'm sure some of the higher ups and stock holders are demanding the Xbox division(whatever it's called media bla bla bla or somthing) make as much easy money as possible off of the 360 after the huge losses to get into the market in the first place and to build the Xbox live network. I mean were talking billions with a capital B.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony was better about game saves on different storage mediums, it just seems more up their alley. Sony knows th PS3 MUST be sucessfull in order for the company to survive the same isn't necessarily true at Microshaft.

 

[hey69]

Well, Square-Enix announced Final Fantasy XI for Xbox 360 as early as May 16, 2005, months before the launch of Xbox 360.

http://www.square-enix.com/na/company/press/2005/05162005/

at that point they told everybody the xbox360 would come standard with a builtin harddrive. it was months later they decided to sell xbox360 without a standard harddrive.
they launched in japan with only a premium pack to make those jap devs happy . thats what it boils down to

 

[bbot]

In order to access Xbox Live and Playonline, you need the xbox 360 with the hdd. Since SE and Microsoft announced FFXI for Xbox 360 six months before the launch, SE must have been sure it could count on the hdd being present.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

I remember the announcement of an XB360 without HDD came as something of a shock to a couple of devs. The release of a cheaper Premium pack in Japan without the option of no HDD seems to me to have been to please the devs who expected an HDD in all machines. This topic has been discussed before though.

 

[pipo]

at that point they told everybody the xbox360 would come standard with a builtin harddrive. it was months later they decided to sell xbox360 without a standard harddrive.

Almost true. Except for the fact they had been telling devs since day one not to take one for granted, and we all assumed they would include one.

 

[Nesh]

You mean FFXI? PS2 HDD is also used for the linux. (and memcard and loads faster I think)

The only thing I don't like is that it's 2,5". I don't know if it's cheaper to produce but they sure won't sell it cheaper, and it's not as fast either.

Oops FF11 I ment

Well if you wanted Linux you had to pay separately for a separate package which was very very very expensive.You also had to order it.It wasnt easy to find.Not many people knew Linux either.Actually the majority have no idea of Linux.And it wasnt easy for people that knew Linux to find and install it.

Getting the HDD to play FF11 didnt quarantee that you would use a lInux on it.And almost all FF11 packages had the hardrive included.If you had Linux and wanted to play FF11 most likely you had to pay an additional $90 for an extra HD.

For example if I bought a HD, I wouldnt use a Linux.I dont have the cash, nor the knowldge.The only usefulness I would find besides FF11 would have been for saving data.
And if I knew Linux I wouldnt have been willing to pay twice for a HD.

It wasnt useful for the casual everyday consumer