Still ranting about MS pre-launch policies and U-Turn *spawn
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Judging from your comment I guess you are in a beta?
All preview members are if you opted in. There are less issues now then when it was first released, but there are still some items that need to be ironed out.
I've been in the beta. Didn't get in the first week or two, but so far my bugs have been zero. Now as far as the new "features", I have only a couple of issues. Nothing that I think most people will have issues with or even care, but I really don't see the problems being a real big mainstream issue. I think most press should be good. 360 compatibility, reorganized store, faster guide & quicker access to the most used game features I think will be welcomed. I could see an early December update to fix some bugs, but we probably won't see any new features added until January or February.
Tommy McClain
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Lingering fears and misunderstanding, a perceived (and actual) deficit of GPU power, weaker brand, and a fucking huge ugly case and fucking huge ugly power brick are all things that continue to work against MS.
It's gonna be next gen before the misunderestimatestanding and GPU deficit can be fixed. Weaker brand will take time: MS were catching up with the 360 but napalmed themselves this gen, and huge ugly system will probably not be cleared up this gen either because it won't be deemed worth it.
MS need a do-over. Some shit stained underpants can't be cleaned up enough for people to want to sniff them. Sometimes you just have to start again with another pair of improved underpants that you're smart enough not to soil in the run up to your first date.
It's gonna be next gen before the misunderestimatestanding and GPU deficit can be fixed. Weaker brand will take time: MS were catching up with the 360 but napalmed themselves this gen, and huge ugly system will probably not be cleared up this gen either because it won't be deemed worth it.
MS need a do-over. Some shit stained underpants can't be cleaned up enough for people to want to sniff them. Sometimes you just have to start again with another pair of improved underpants that you're smart enough not to soil in the run up to your first date.
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That's a pretty blunt assessment of the whole situation, but I kind of follow your point.
I totally expect Microsoft to completely nail it next gen. They won't want to have the same sales or power deficit ever again. Sometimes it helps to have your ego knocked.
"misunderestimatestanding"
U wot?!
If the response to E3 is anything to judge by they are already quickly moving in the right direction, some of the best titles shown are exclusive the platform which shows they are taking first party development and having a diversified library very seriously, the value offered by the XB1 with all the additional software is very good and we haven't seen what apps will do for the platform. All in all I think things can only get better for them.
Yup, pretty much since the second wave, about 2-3 weeks before they opened it up to everyone who opted in.
I had no real issues until the weekend of October 28th or so. Thats when their update made TV via HDMI in an extreme hassle and has me considering removing it from my setup. As of today here are my main issues with their TV feature:
- No TV signal when instant on (sleep mode) and boot to tv is set. I need to power cycle the Tivo Mini or the Xbox console to get the signal back.
- When using directional controls such as fast forward, rewind, instant replay, or 30 second skip the screen goes to a static image for 5 to 8 seconds before the display updates. This makes using a DVR a royal pain.
- When switching channels the screen takes 4 to 8 seconds before the display updates. This makes using TV a real annoyance.
- When switching channels or using directional controls sometimes all audio is lost but the video displays fine. Sometimes you need to power cycle the Tivo Mini or the Xbox console to get audio back, it all depends on which dashboard build they had pushed out.
- If you're in a country with 50Hz TV signals, your display will flicker or judder or stutter like crazy.
- When having TV in snapped mode it stutters or judders or flickers like crazy even in countries with 60Hz signals.
- They switched the voice gestures, "xbox show guide" and "xbox close" no longer shows the TV guide and returns to watching TV. "Xbox show guide" gives you the side snap center instead. You need to use "xbox oneguide" and "xbox goto tv" to get old behavior.
- If you use "xbox watch tv" it mostly gets read as "xbox watch tbs" or "xbox watch trutv". So now you have to retrain everyone in the household how to use xbox tv with kinect voice gestures.
All of those bugs together makes the xbox one unique feature of watching TV completely worthless. If they don't fix those bugs I will be removing the xbox from my TV watching setup.
Other annoyances:
- You can no longer see who is in a party, you have to blindly join the party to see who is in it.
- Random disconnects from party throughout the last couple of weeks.
- Random controller disconnects when playing games.
- Random flakiness of notifications like not getting any party invites at all.
Persistantthug
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Only bug I've seen in the NXOE is the snapped TV chat is choppy with audio cutting in and out while Halo 5 is on the main screen. I've really only noticed it with this game so far.
I've had Twitch on the main screen and TV snapped and vice versa with both being flawless, so here's hoping they fix it. I could be wrong, snapped TV shouldn't be taking any processing power as HDMI is a pass-through right???
I've had Twitch on the main screen and TV snapped and vice versa with both being flawless, so here's hoping they fix it. I could be wrong, snapped TV shouldn't be taking any processing power as HDMI is a pass-through right???
guys, does the kinect voice command also works for DLNA contents? how accurate is it?
Yes voice with DLNA media player works. It works well streaming from my Emby server.
There are some times where I wish instead of using the name of the program you could just select by item number. Sometimes it works with just the first part of the file name, other times you need to use the full name.
There are some times where I wish instead of using the name of the program you could just select by item number. Sometimes it works with just the first part of the file name, other times you need to use the full name.
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Personally, I feel that it's important for Microsoft to understand what actually works (and importantly - is actually used) and to build off of those functions. We know that they look at what the player uses and adjust according, as it's kind of reported on another thread about Kinect (motion commands being dropped from OS navigation).
I wonder how much the Xbox One population use "Snap", or even fundamental hardware design choices like an HDMI-in. I'd bet they know exactly how much this stuff is used and judging by the renewed gaming focus, probably not very much.
To be fair on them; they tried to actually expand the focus of the device beyond gaming, but it turned out people didn't really want that. I feel it's good for them to continue looking for other avenues to broaden their customer base, but they need to look at things that cannot be done by other devices and that people actually want to use. Not a financial focus, more of a customer focus.
Nah, they just went about it wrong. Other earlier consoles have shown the device for entertainment is a valued proposition. People had been using their consoles for disc films, streaming services, music playing even (PS3's music visualiser), as well as gaming. The market just shifted emphasis onto other devices (smart TVs and STBs) leaving MS a bit behind, while their messaging stank and made the worst of it.
Yes, but they backburned the gaming, which was dumb imho. The few I know that bought an X1 with Kinect, has disconnected for some reason or another now. Do not know why, but they have.
Still progress is progress, they might just remix it for later push in this gen or try again next gen. But looking at last gen, Sony did sort of the sameish stuff with PS3. Multimedia hub with different sd card readers, hdd, blue-ray and that high quality CD stuff and not to forget, the super computer cell vision. Which technically by itself was cool and a monster in limited settings. But for what it was supposed to do deliver games so that devs can make a profit, it was not a perfect fit.
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One of the things that bothered me about the original announcement was the fact that they spent 100s of million on NFL broadcasting (was it 500m? I can't remember). And all I could think about was the 360 where they'd spent maybe 1b on twice the memory after seeing Gears of War at 256 and 512. Any yet now, American Football was deemed more worthy than powerful hardware - a sport that's only really watched by one country.
Hopefully my facts are right, will have to look them up.
Edit: the NFL deal cost 400m
Yeah, I think if the MS of today built a console it would be highly competitive in every way. Spencer & co. seem to be nailing everything that they can, given the legacy of the early XB1 plans.
U herd!!
Yeah, it's funny to think that for all MS's plans for TVTVSPORTS, digital sales, and injecting adverts direct into the eyeballs of everyone using the dash, that it's actually Sony that have more people consuming media, more digital sales, and more opportunity for advertising.
Sony are "winning" at all the stuff MS built the Xbox One for, by virtue of building on their foundation as a games console.
MS meanwhile thought they didn't need this foundation, and now their building has rather crumbled.
What MS didnt get is that gamers like other media too and they were ready to throw their money on the best gaming experience they could get first and consumer the other goods/services if available. A TVphile doesnt necessary like games on the other hand. Sacrificing some "gaming stuff" to focus on the non gaming stuff and sell at a more expensive price was the stupidest idea ever.
TVphiles werent convinced to shove $500 for a games console and gamers had a better option for games called PS4. I still cant believe people were anticipating XB1 to get massive sales to a theoretically increased appeal to a bigger market. It was the opposite.
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