SquareEnix explains why FFXIII is PS3 exclusive - DVD9 not enough
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And if they had gone X360 it would have been :
"Sony's shader tech was too limiting for us to express our REAL creative vision. Only Microsoft and its revolutionary unified shader architecture gives us the flexibility to envision the Final Fantasy that we at Square have always wanted to make."
And then, on the next line, instead of a mention about DVD9 they would say:
"Steve Ballmer gives great oral."
"Sony's shader tech was too limiting for us to express our REAL creative vision. Only Microsoft and its revolutionary unified shader architecture gives us the flexibility to envision the Final Fantasy that we at Square have always wanted to make."
And then, on the next line, instead of a mention about DVD9 they would say:
"Steve Ballmer gives great oral."
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We wont find out for sure. But we recently seeing FF-offsprings announced for Gamecube, PSP and Mobile phones(!!), unlikely that pure technological reasons keep XBox-Versions from happening.kyleb said:Or then maybe if the PS3 was never planed to use Blu-ray, then instead they would have chose to take a head start on the next gen with the 360. Hard to say as everyone has known for a long time that that the PS3 will use Blu-ray.
Na, the PStwo & Gamecube have a way more accessible DVD-Drive... such a thing wont be possible with frontloaders like the XBox360. Bad luck MS.kyleb said:
This bit here:TheChefO said:
"I've explained my theories on why I think Bluray is not a limiting factor in this instance"
Your "theories" contradict the words of the developer.
And there you did it again. I guess I should learn to be more catious about giving out good rep.TheChefO said:
kyleb said:I guess I should learn to be more catious about giving out good rep.
ouch ...
Do you honestly believe that it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for them to make this game on dvd(s)?
I'm not saying the experience would be identical or that they wouldn't have issues trying to squeeze the game in, but seriously there is a very big difference between "need" and "want".
I never said anything of the sort. Rather, I know that it is Impossible to say one way or another until the game is completed.TheChefO said:
And I am saying that whatever they might wind up creating, it could end up being something that can't rightly be broken down onto DVDs.TheChefO said:
mckmas8808
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Vysez said:
What is a scenario? What's the difference between it and the total game?
drpepper said:
I think - please correct me if I'm wrong - that FFVII only had disc swapping after certain events, because the FMV on the disc was no longer needed. Eg, first confrontation with Sephiroth (hope I'm not spoiling for anyone but there's a big FMV scene there).
Yeah, the world changes slightly from disc to disc, but overall you still explored the same world. I'm guessing if it was done in-engine (*shudder*) multiple discs wouldn't be necessary.
Like I said, I'd prefer it in-game these days. I know it's their trademark and all, but we're hopefully beyond the "turn on the spot then walk", "head bops up and down to indicate speaking" type of in-game engine. Square sure have a talented programmer team, and it would IMO make the game much much more impressive if they could say "we ditched FMV because in-game graphics are so good". Imagine that!
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kyleb said:
You're saying they might not, we're saying they might, nobody knows. We're basing our opinion on teh fact that FF has always been linear, and has always used a tremendous amount of CG, you're basing your opinion on a quote from the producer of the game that may be PR or may be the truth.
Nobody's saying anything definitive either way (anymore) so there's no need to argue forever.
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Try an analogy to movie production: scenarios are like storyboarding and script writing, game production is like filming and editing. While the former do require a lot of effort (like LOTR, that was crazy), the latter are what people usually talk about in terms of completeness. Having the game engine nearly done is a big plus, obviously.mckmas8808 said:
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kyleb said:
It's stil a possibility, is that such a hard concept to grasp?
I dont think we were going to see FF13 on 360 even if the non-technological reasons didnt exist. A different FF-spin off though probably yes.Npl said:We wont find out for sure. But we recently seeing FF-offsprings announced for Gamecube, PSP and Mobile phones(!!), unlikely that pure technological reasons keep XBox-Versions from happening.
I think they are ambitiously trying to show a next gen RPG through the new FF game...
so the scope of the world is expected to be quite more than your average game....
let's say a hypothetical game DATA of 6 GB(compressed) is used for the game...
and about 16 GB is used for the HD-CG...
you can't just split them easily through DVD discs...
it's possible but not feasable...
since it's expected that an RPG is a free-roaming world the theoretical 6 GB of Game DATA can't be spliced into sectors, like how a regular game is split up by it's game levels...
because of the fact that you might need to go back to the earlier towns and areas of the game...
so we are looking at about each DVD disc having to contain the same 6 GB of game DATA and the rest being given to the HD-CG...
you are looking at an approximated 8 DVD9 discs...
the only other option is converting the HD-CG (1080p) into the lesser 480p standard to kill off the extreme space used for the HD-CG. which is about 2 DVD9s give or take a disc...
so the scope of the world is expected to be quite more than your average game....
let's say a hypothetical game DATA of 6 GB(compressed) is used for the game...
and about 16 GB is used for the HD-CG...
you can't just split them easily through DVD discs...
it's possible but not feasable...
since it's expected that an RPG is a free-roaming world the theoretical 6 GB of Game DATA can't be spliced into sectors, like how a regular game is split up by it's game levels...
because of the fact that you might need to go back to the earlier towns and areas of the game...
so we are looking at about each DVD disc having to contain the same 6 GB of game DATA and the rest being given to the HD-CG...
you are looking at an approximated 8 DVD9 discs...
the only other option is converting the HD-CG (1080p) into the lesser 480p standard to kill off the extreme space used for the HD-CG. which is about 2 DVD9s give or take a disc...
What is a hard concept to for me to grasp is that people will question a man's words with nothing possibility that may or may well not wind up being true, and contenue to weasel around the issue long after the flaws in their logic has been pointed out. But thanks to you and others I'm starting to get a handle on the fact that that is just how some people are. :|scooby_dooby said:
Moonblade said:
That's ridiculous, the CGI videos are what tell a lot of the story and unless you want to play a FF without knowing the story, changing the disc every time there's a cut-scene would be impossibly tedious. And why play a FF game if you can't be bothered following the whole story? Might as well go play Tekken.
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