*spin-off* Regarding Back-of-the-Box HDTV Support

[Nesh]

I have the PS3 version of FF13 and I am amazed by how crisp and clear the image quality is.

I am playing the game on a 1080p 42'' TV and it is hard for me to find any aliasing (except on some low res shadows here and there which isnt exactly the same thing).

The game chooses to scale automatically to 1080p if you have a Full HD set with all resolution options chosen.

So I was curious to check the box at the back. It says 720p, 1080i and 1080p. This is the first time that I see a PS3 game listing all resolutions including the upscaled modes.

So I was curious whats the catch. Is it a new choice to list all modes like what MS does with its games (listing native and upscaled modes at the back of the box)? Or is this because the real time scenes run at 720p and the CGI cut scenes run automatically at 1080p?

 

[SonComet]

Lots of PS3 games have listed 1080i, 1080p, modes on the back of the box. MGS4 and Uncharted 2 spring right to mind. But I'm sure there are many other examples. Or are you talking about it listing 1080p as the recommended resolution? Most list the upscale resolutions, but 720p is usually highlighted as the recommended or default.

 

[Nesh]

Lots of PS3 games have listed 1080i, 1080p, modes on the back of the box. MGS4 and Uncharted 2 spring right to mind. But I'm sure there are many other examples. Or are you talking about it listing 1080p as the recommended resolution? Most list the upscale resolutions, but 720p is usually highlighted as the recommended or default.

I have MGS4 and Uncharted 2. They only list 720p.

FF13 is the only game I have that has 720p,1080i,1080p on the back despite that the native is 720p.

 

[whome0]

I have MGS4 and Uncharted 2. They only list 720p.
FF13 is the only game I have that has 720p,1080i,1080p on the back despite that the native is 720p.

Most games I have say 720p only, here are games listing more resolutions.
Ratchet & Clank a Crack in Time: 720p, 1080i
Soul Calibur IV: 720p, 480p (shocking news )
Bioshock 1: 720p, 1080i, 1080p

 

[Nesh]

Most games I have say 720p only, here are games listing more resolutions.
Ratchet & Clank a Crack in Time: 720p, 1080i
Soul Calibur IV: 720p, 480p (shocking news )
Bioshock 1: 720p, 1080i, 1080p

Hmm...I am really curious what are the reasons for listing more resolutions for some games and some not.

 

[SonComet]

I have MGS4 and Uncharted 2. They only list 720p.

FF13 is the only game I have that has 720p,1080i,1080p on the back despite that the native is 720p.

Are you in Europe? In the US Uncharted 2 lists multiple resolutions on the back cover. I also just checked the back of darksiders since I just picked that up and it lists multiple resolutions as well. Not just 720p.

 

[N_B]

Yeah, the PAL version of Uncharted 2 only lists 720p, but will output in 1080 when forced. Same with the Ratchet and Clank games.

 

[whome0]

Hmm...I am really curious what are the reasons for listing more resolutions for some games and some not.

Are you in Europe? In the US Uncharted 2 lists multiple resolutions on the back cover. I also just checked the back of darksiders since I just picked that up and it lists multiple resolutions as well. Not just 720p.

SonComet's comment may give us some indication, US consumers may have a "gimped" non-720p hd televisions. Europe was covered by HDReady specs requiring 720p and 1080i minimum level.

US gamers had problems if 720p game did not upscale to 1080i signal. PS3 game was downscaled to 480p signal. I believe most games have had a fallback 1080i format for some time now.

 

[Nesh]

Are you in Europe? In the US Uncharted 2 lists multiple resolutions on the back cover. I also just checked the back of darksiders since I just picked that up and it lists multiple resolutions as well. Not just 720p.

Yep EU it is

SonComet's comment may give us some indication, US consumers may have a "gimped" non-720p hd televisions. Europe was covered by HDReady specs requiring 720p and 1080i minimum level.

US gamers had problems if 720p game did not upscale to 1080i signal. PS3 game was downscaled to 480p signal. I believe most games have had a fallback 1080i format for some time now.

This makes me wonder why the list of more resolutions in the PAL version of FF13 though

 

[SG79]

Yeah, the PAL version of Uncharted 2 only lists 720p, but will output in 1080 when forced. Same with the Ratchet and Clank games.

So 960x1080? I have to give it a try I suppose. I know Uncharted 1 did that but tearing increased.

 

[nightshade]

So 960x1080? I have to give it a try I suppose. I know Uncharted 1 did that but tearing increased.

There is no 960*1080 in UC2 IIRC.
Its just upscaled 1080i/1080p mode...you can force upscale in the PAL ver too [unlike UC1 PAL where forcing 1080p made the game render in 576p & then upscaled]

 

[Clerigo]

I have the PS3 version of FF13 and I am amazed by how crisp and clear the image quality is.

I am playing the game on a 1080p 42'' TV and it is hard for me to find any aliasing (except on some low res shadows here and there which isnt exactly the same thing).

The game chooses to scale automatically to 1080p if you have a Full HD set with all resolution options chosen.

I confirm!