"Sony walking a tightrope" another reason why no playable at tgs

[doob]

If you people (and "analysts") think that Sony is doing that (apparently not presenting playable demos) as a industry/business move to try and not hurt the cash flow of PS2/PSP hardware/software ... think again because micrososft and its new hardware + software titles will for sure. And if sony does what that report tells even better for microsoft!

Sony would do allot better by showing off that it will deliver what it is saying/showing.

 

[Gholbine]

If you people (and "analysts") think that Sony is doing that (apparently not presenting playable demos) as a industry/business move to try and not hurt the cash flow of PS2/PSP hardware/software ... think again because micrososft and its new hardware + software titles will for sure. And if sony does what that report tells even better for microsoft!

Sony would do allot better by showing off that it will deliver what it is saying/showing.

And they will show it, after the holiday season so they don't slow the flow of PS2 sales.

Microsoft has no choice but to pimp their system as hard as possible. Sony has the choice.

 

[mckmas8808]

Sony would do allot better by showing off that it will deliver what it is saying/showing.

And then sell what this holiday season? What will they sell? So they should cut the advervising cost to show the PSP's games and PS2 games to show games for a system that's not coming out for another 6 months at the earliest.

 

[doob]

And then sell what this holiday season? What will they sell? So they should cut the advervising cost to show the PSP's games and PS2 games to show games for a system that's not coming out for another 6 months at the earliest.

To convince the market and end consumer to think "Hey we DO have a better system comming out! Are you sure you want to waist your money on a Xb360 and not wait a few more months?"

Imo microsoft has a nice step ahead of sony and it will gain allot of market share this round (this Christmas). Or what do you think kids/teenagers will be asking for? a PS2 or a Xbox? or a Xbox360 and a game for its new console?

 

[London Geezer]

Uhm actually, looking at history, shortages will surely affect MS (especially with a worldwide launch in the space of a couple of weeks), and current-gen consoles will most probably outsell the X360 this christmas, just like PS1 outsold ALL of the new consoles put together (ps2, DC and N64) in the year PS2 came out.
There won't be too many X360 out "to pick up" before Xmas.

 

[Phil]

March 4 2000 - November 15 (I think) 2001.

That's correct, but take in account that PS2 launched 7 Months in advance in Japan only. If we keep this strictly on the NA market / region, it's a 13 months difference (PS2 October 2000 launch in NA vs a Xbox November 2001 launch).

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Imo microsoft has a nice step ahead of sony and it will gain allot of market share this round (this Christmas). Or what do you think kids/teenagers will be asking for? a PS2 or a Xbox? or a Xbox360 and a game for its new console?

It's more a question of what'll kids/teenagers be getting, not what are they asking for. Even if 10 million want an XB360, there won't be that many available. MS will gain, at best, 3-5 million units by my guessing before Sony get passed Christmas and start there PS3 promotional strategising. But either way that's irrelvant. A system on view in shops has a trillion times more advertising power then playable games at a gaming convention which 90% of the gaming populace will never even hear about.

 

[Thegameman]

No kidding. I'm not even going to bother touching that much flamebait piled all in one place.

Escuse me it was not flame bait.


Those are facts and i have never flame any one here.


I say it cuz some people here are saying things which are way off,in fact the comment about the Xbox losing cuz the PS2 release first is completely pull out of MS PR section.


What i say is a fact were ever some one may like it or not.


How i'm flaming when the PS2 did out sold the xbox bad,how i'm flaming when the most push advatage of the xbox have been graphics and HDD,by MS own people.

I have site save with comment from MS people on the xbox graphics power that would blow you mind off,they hype the xbox power to the extreme.


How i'm flaming when the PS2 did sold 10 million units the first year of release.

How i'm flaming when the PS2 did had like 18 million consoles world wide by the time the xbox hit..


People get mad and acuse other of doing things,when info they don't like is posted sorry but saying MS loose cuz Sony release first is out of this world,the PS2 still outsold to this day the xbox,people don't seeit equal no matter what you people like to think i just point the fact,cuz many people here are way off.


And yes i'm new here but i long year falowing games and yes i do have all consoles and had enjoy them all.

 

[Powderkeg]

Escuse me it was not flame bait.


Those are facts and i have never flame any one here.

Your personal opinion is not a fact. I would love to see you actually back up your claims line by line with indesputible proof that they are factual. I only count 2 that you could actually prove true.

 

[London Geezer]

Escuse me it was not flame bait.

No? Was it a suicide napalm post then?

Those are facts and i have never flame any one here.

SIR YES SIR YOUR WORD IS TRUTH.

I say it cuz some people here are saying things which are way off,in fact the comment about the Xbox losing cuz the PS2 release first is completely pull out of MS PR section.

YES everyone here apart from you don't know what they're talking about. It's clear from your posts.

What i say is a fact were ever some one may like it or not.

SIR YES SIR!

How i'm flaming when the PS2 did out sold the xbox bad,how i'm flaming when the most push advatage of the xbox have been graphics and HDD,by MS own people.

Mmmkay... Ps2 outsold Xbox... True true. What's a push advantage? Is it naughty?

I have site save with comment from MS people on the xbox graphics power that would blow you mind off,they hype the xbox power to the extreme.

Mmmkay, MS PR people doing their job.... True true. I mean i could show you 2 articles from a friend in Scandinavia, they're exclusive interviews with top Sony execs telling him that PS3 is actually LESS powerful than X360! He's a reliable source too, posts here sometimes...

How i'm flaming when the PS2 did sold 10 million units the first year of release.

Yes.

How i'm flaming when the PS2 did had like 18 million consoles world wide by the time the xbox hit..

82

People get mad and acuse other of doing things,when info they don't like is posted sorry but saying MS loose cuz Sony release first is out of this world,the PS2 still outsold to this day the xbox,people don't seeit equal no matter what you people like to think i just point the fact,cuz many people here are way off.

*goes back to the top*

*ONE MORE TIME!*

And yes i'm new here but i long year falowing games and yes i do all all consoles and had enjoy them all.

Thank you.




EDIT: SORRY COULDN'T HELP IT I KNOW THEY NEED TO BE IGNORED BUT THIS WAS JUST THERE AND EASY TO PICK ON!

 

[hey69]

you are too evil on him
make love not war

 

[Thegameman]

Your personal opinion is not a fact. I would love to see you actually back up your claims line by line with indesputible proof that they are factual. I only count 2 that you could actually prove true.

So in other words you want some link to were Sony did all this i say?

Sony launched its popular PlayStation 2 almost 2 years ago, and the device has sold more than 30 million units worldwide, the company says. Since its launch, the PlayStation 2 has sold for $300 in the United States, the same price that Microsoft has asked for the Xbox; Nintendo's GameCube, which features lower-end technology than its rivals, has always cost $200.


Compared to Sony's soaring success, consumer acceptance of the Microsoft and Nintendo boxes has been somewhat muted. Microsoft has sold more than 1.5 million Xboxes since the devices became available late last year, and the company says it's on track to sell more than 3.5 million units by midyear. Nintendo's GameCube has sold about 4 million units so far. Sony sold more than 10 million PlayStation 2 units in its first year of availability and would have sold more had the company been able to meet demand. Since then, Sony has increased capacity to meet the demand.

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/25194/25194.html?Ad=1

2 bird with one stone this arcticle was write on May 2002 by that time the xbox din't have a year on the market and the PS2 was already at 30+.

Gates noted that the last time around [when the PlayStation 2 was released ahead of the Xbox], Microsoft was beaten to the punch and said overall sales suffered as a result.

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-15016-2377-4-4-x


MS has say many times that they loss cuz of the PS2 release first,is the reason why they are releasing firt now.

Sony revealed that it has shipped 91.62 million PS2 units worldwide as of July 20. Of those, 37 million were in North America, 21.41 were in Japan and Asia, and 33.21 were in Europe. PS2 software has shipped a cumulative 863 million during the same period: 395 million in America, 176 million in Japan, including Asia, and 292 million in Europe.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/roguegalaxy/news_6129647.html

More than three times the graphics performance of the newest-generation game consoles will be offered. Co-developed with experts at NVIDIA, the custom-designed graphics chip will deliver more than 200 million polygons per second.

Rich, fast-action and realistic experiences will be enabled by the Xbox hard drive.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2000/mar00/XboxPR1.mspx



Is not my opinion as you can see those are facts,they hype the power and HDD from the star.



Jan-05

PS2 490,002
xbox 242,375
Gamecube 112,327

Feb-05

PS2 537,904
xbox 213,042
Gamecube 114,411

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=42588&page=1&pp=50

March
PS2 - 495,000
Xbox - 227,000
Gamecube - 94,000

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=42588&page=11&pp=50



Is the same up until now if you search you find it easy,it was not my opinion this are hard facts,of what has happen and what is going on now.


So please stop acusing me of flaming those things i say are facts not my opinion.

 

[London Geezer]

So please stop acusing me of flaming those things i say are facts not my opinion.

Mate you're not getting it are you.
The fact that you keep posting this stuff, trying to make a point which everyone saw a mile away IS flaming!
We KNOW the figures, we KNOW the percentages. The fact that you keep posting like a lunatic PR Sony man is the irritating part.

Words of advice man, chill out.