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[rabidrabbit]

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There be tons of tech hohohaha as always, but its just tech hohohaha seen from the eyes of tech dudes. Theorectical if you will.

Wait and see as to be expected IMHO.

So in your opinion Sony, MS and Nintendo should just sit and wait until there is a ready established userbase (created by another company/service), for a given service or product, instead of trying to create or expand this userbase themselves and thus possibly getting a larger share of those users.

But wait... didn't Sony (and MS) just do it with their network gaming? They didn't release the Network Adapter until they thought there was enough broadband users.
Still it was lower and not as advanced than they expected a couple of years before, but at least they were prepared.

I don't see what's so overly optimistic in Wireless Networks technology, certainly, in regards of home networking, it is wiser to bet on it than old 'wired' networking. It would be foolish to think that average consumer would be willing to run cables across the apartment just to get both the bedroom PC and livingroom broadband device online or even local.

 

[notAFanB]

it's things like these that make me wonder... why did i move here???

sorry to hear that...


still it's clear that offering different ranges of service (low-med and high end) is the way to go. keeps things affordble and forcably move improves the infrastrure, that is....assuming there isn't some sort of crash anyhow.

 

[kaching]

For instance techie optimists have predicted that broadband would go !boom! today, but it aint be booming. It be good, but not what they expected. Same thing with online gaming.

There be tons of tech hohohaha as always, but its just tech hohohaha seen from the eyes of tech dudes. Theorectical if you will.

Wait and see as to be expected IMHO.

If you don't pay attention to what's already been posted and if you don't pay attention to current trends in the broadband/networking/wifi arena, then your post is also "theoretical", if you will.

For example, you seem to be ignoring this comment quoted in my post:

"Parks Associates did some interesting studies on that recently. The conclusion is that home networking is absolutely exploding because of Wi-Fi. After 10 years of almost nothing, it's (now) just going through the roof."

That statement isn't theory, chap. They wouldn't come to such a conclusion without evidence in the here and now.

And just a little effort put into searching will give you a better idea of where broadband stands.

http://news.com.com/2100-1034-5106606.html

2 million new broadband subscribers added in the most recent quarter in the US alone. 20 million total at this point:

You seem to be doing most of the theoretical speaking at this point, chap. If you're only going to arm yourself with the fact that technology experts have made wrong predictions in the past, then your own thoughts on the subject are going to remain myopic.

 

[chaphack]

kaching,

yeay, rises in bb, in the US, there are, BUT how much closer is that to past theorectical predictions?

now now, i juz conveniently brought up bb to show that techie predictions are techie predictions. best case theoretical scenario etc. last i recall Sony themselves are lamenting the slower than expected bb takeup. Even so, bb is juz but one, im sure you know of many past techie optimism that failed wayside, juz as there are successes. So be taking a salt tablet with all this tech talk, it has alwasy been voliate industry if anything to go by.

as for WiFi, lets see for fun, do you have WiFi? How many peeps here have a WiFi network at home?

Lemme start, we have a simple WiFi setup. so +1 chap.


BUT please take not that im not confirming that PS3 will not have WiFi, nor WiFi will juz die out, but simply juz if WiFi be wanted by SCE, it be a separate addon or for PSX2.

 

[notAFanB]

yeay, rises in bb, in the US, there are, BUT how much closer is that to past theorectical predictions?

I don't know, do you? btw why isn't the take up of BB (especially among the mid to higher range earners) taking up?

price, availability indifference?

now now, i juz conveniently brought up bb to show that techie predictions are techie predictions.

who are these techie's that you speak of? engineers? IT consultants? research associates?

if you mean most of the guys on this board then yes it's largely personnel evaluation (what merit does this setup award me).

best case theoretical scenario etc.

nonsense, a 'techies' predictions are much like the next man. completely unfounded. some floow best case scenario while considering problems and visa versa.

Even so, bb is juz but one, im sure you know of many past techie optimism that failed wayside, juz as there are successes. So be taking a salt tablet with all this tech talk, it has alwasy been voliate industry if anything to go by.

playing it safe huh?

as for WiFi, lets see for fun, do you have WiFi? How many peeps here have a WiFi network at home?

I do not have WiFi. how many people do have some WiFi setup at home? wha are the figues? whats the current penetration like and what other alternatives are being pushed in it's place?

 

[Paul]

as for WiFi, lets see for fun, do you have WiFi? How many peeps here have a WiFi network at home?

irrelevant, for a PS3 scenario the PS3 outputs WIFI signals throughout the entire house.

 

[notAFanB]

as for WiFi, lets see for fun, do you have WiFi? How many peeps here have a WiFi network at home?

irrelevant, for a PS3 scenario the PS3 outputs WIFI signals throughout the entire house.

new to me. what are the cost considerations for inclusion?

this alos posts a sercurity issue too so I'm not sure what the limit on content delevery would be like for this to work.

 

[kaching]

I see you've reverted to the lazy grammar and spelling. I guess I no longer warrant your respectful attention, chap?

There are certain kinds of predictions that are prone to failure, namely the ones that try to pin their expectations about events occurring to certain timeframes or specifying quantities. It's very easy to get those wrong. The only reasonable point you'd be able to make out of continuously bringing such failed predictions up is that people shouldn't be so fixated on predicting when something will happen and how much of it there will be but rather focus on making it happen. I'd agree**, but I notice that's not really the point you seem to be making since you don't seem all that interested in how things are going now, but rather in still lamenting how things might have been and dinging the tech talkers on the head for it. It's a counterproductive attitude that let's you sit there and blame everybody for being wrong so you never have to worry about being right.

Here's hoping you can see the light and stop living in the past. Your question about who has Wifi is a step in the right direction.

I have a wifi/wired setup at home: PS2, XBox and desktop PC wired to the router, two laptops and a PDA connecting wirelessly and sometimes my neighbor piggybacking on my DSL bandwidth (so that means they at least have a wifi card). If I step out on my porch (crowded residential area) I can find two other Wifi hotspots besides my own.

**=I do think there is some merit though to making predictions about timing and volume of tech uptake, even if the predictions themselves fail. By spotlighting a new technology area as a hot area for growth with the potential for big revenue, you're more likely to get companies interested and moving towards that tech, even if it takes longer than expected. There is the danger of overhyping of course, but you're far more likely to generate interest in something by predicting big success on the horizon rather than big failure, obviously.

 

[Vince]

this alos posts a sercurity issue too so I'm not sure what the limit on content delevery would be like for this to work.

Look up Kutaragi and Sony @ the USPTO. You'll find around 2-3 patents relating to secure content distibution and can cross reference another few from other Sony employees on the same topic.

 

[maskrider]

It is just a kind of wireless networking system, what's the deal with how many of us (here in this board) are using WiFi ?

Our samples here are negligible comparing to the world. Airports, Shopping malls, Notebook retailers and Coffee shops are all equipped with WiFi Internet access.

New notebooks models are equipped with WiFi compatible wireless LAN adaptors.

If WiFi is not getting really popular, who would want to invest for that.

I have a 802.11b setup at home, but it is normally turned off.

 

[Paul]

new to me. what are the cost considerations for inclusion?

Not much. You can get a wireless access point for around 50 bucks right now.

Remember though, PS3 is coming in 2-3 years and it's not like you would be buying the hardware from a store. It should only cost Sony around 10 bucks to include the hardware inside PS3, maybe not even.