sony portable videoplayer , 4 hours playback claimed

[Panajev2001a]

Chap there is a reason why Sony went the extra-step and icnluded WiFi 802.11: online gameplay becomes possible if you are in a presence of an access point with DCHP on

 

[chaphack]

Another better reason is devs requested it(as claimed by Sony)!
Of coz i saya that PSP + WiFi is pretty understandable(not juz online but more usefully head-on play with fellow PSP brudders), but PS3....HmmMm....

 

[maskrider]

I'd expect it to have Bluetooth for wireless controllers, or may be other wireless controller technology.

May be they include WiFi because WiFi devices are getting really popular nowadays. And if it takes 802.11b I suppose the cost for adding that will be minimal at the time they mass produce PS3.

And BTW, most of the time, if not all, 802.11b devices cannot provide even half of its claimed bandwidth (11Mbps). Mostly around 2-3Mbps, and sometimes even worse.

 

[kaching]

maskrider, I don't think the last point you mentioned should be a problem. Wired broadband gaming right now often falls into that speed range and lower because of the realities of network architectures currently. Whether I choose DSL or cable, I can't get higher than 1.5 Mbps in my area at the moment, and it was roughly the same at the last place I lived (2 Mbps or less). Even if we see a dramatic upgrade in speed over the wires over the next few years, 802.11g seems to be able to keep pace (at least for awhile), no? And there are faster wireless technologies like UWB on the horizon

At this point, I wouldn't bet against Wifi. Projections for the next five years show massive growth, eg.:

http://www.pyr.com/info/press/release_030721.asp

Even Bill Gates expects big things, and that means Wifi should get the Deadmeat and chaphack Seal of Approval!

http://www.ventureblog.com/articles/indiv/2003/000114.html

 

[PC-Engine]

The problem with Bluetooth is that few companies are supporting it with actual products and it has very little bandwidth.

 

[maskrider]

The problem with Bluetooth is that few companies are supporting it with actual products and it has very little bandwidth.

For controllers and headphones, it should be fine. MS also has a Bluetooth wireless Mouse.

I think using it for controller is ok.

 

[maskrider]

maskrider, I don't think the last point you mentioned should be a problem. Wired broadband gaming right now often falls into that speed range and lower because of the realities of network architectures currently. Whether I choose DSL or cable, I can't get higher than 1.5 Mbps in my area at the moment, and it was roughly the same at the last place I lived (2 Mbps or less). Even if we see a dramatic upgrade in speed over the wires over the next few years, 802.11g seems to be able to keep pace (at least for awhile), no? And there are faster wireless technologies like UWB on the horizon

At this point, I wouldn't bet against Wifi. Projections for the next five years show massive growth, eg.:

http://www.pyr.com/info/press/release_030721.asp

Even Bill Gates expects big things, and that means Wifi should get the Deadmeat and chaphack Seal of Approval!

http://www.ventureblog.com/articles/indiv/2003/000114.html

I didn't mean it is a problem, simply mention the fact about WiFi (or more specifically 802.11b). 802.11a is much faster from my experience (I was involved in wireless A/V consumer electronics research sometimes ago), but 802.11a is not allowed to be imported to Hong Kong (where I live) as the band seems to be already occupied by an important authority.

 

[cybamerc]

marconelly!:

> Well, most games that I like on GBA I either can play emulated on
> SNES emulator for Pocket PC, or the GBA emulator on it.

Well, most of the games you'll be able to play on PSP can already be played on PS2 today.

> Pocket PC is seriously a heaven for handheld 2D gaming emulation.

A heaven for thieves you mean.

> PSP on the other hand has the high-tech appeal

And the Sony logo.

 

[Paul]

WiFi is cool and all, would love to use PS3 with our existing WiFi network but i dont think it be useful for the average joe.

"Average Joe" with a PSP and PS3 goes online with the PSP in his house through the PS3 which is outputting wireless signals.

Do they even know what WiFi is or bothered to set one up, hell do they even have broadband?

You don't need to know what anything is, nor do you have to know how to set one up. You plug the CAT5/6 Cable right into the back of your PS3 coming from a router, switch or straight from your modem and the PS3 will output wireless signals throughout the house. The PSP or even a laptop can go online using this.

If you had your own wireless network you could do this yourself without the PS3 to get online with PSP.

Of coz, it can just be use to transfer data but i saya, IIRC 802.11b is bout 11mbps while USB2 is 40mpbs, thinketh USB2 is more than enough.

How do you propose USB 2.0 being able to get onto the net?

And i dont think additional cross WiFi capabilities will make PSP/PS3 counter attractive...maybe to tech Pana yes, but average Joe...Hmmm...

Tell the average Joe all he has to do is plug a simple cable into his PS3 to get online with his PSP and play online games and download things to his Memory stick and he will be interested.

Cost is still cost and its pretty wasteful for builit in WiFi on a lil game console, maybe as an addon we have for those that demand wireless.

It's an access point. And costs are little today to build a wireless network, let alone for 2005/6 for Sony to put a WIFI hardware into a PS3.


Oh and I give you a quote from Ando.

``The home server and the PS 3 may be the same thing,'' said Kunitake Ando, president and chief operating officer of Sony, at a recent dinner in Las Vegas.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/5310853.htm

 

[kaching]

Even Intel believes in the shiny shine of Wifi whacaca (or is that yabadaba?):

http://news.com.com/2008-7351_3-5105702.html?tag=guts_bi_7351

And here is how you get the "Average Joe" interested in Wifi:

Homes are already digital. Everyone's already got a computer. The question is, how do you network it? If you ask anybody, "Do you want a network?" they all say no, because they either don't know what a network is, or they do and they don't want the hassle of having to maintain it.

But if you ask someone, "Do you want these devices to talk to each other?" they'll say, "Yeah. Sure I do."

Parks Associates did some interesting studies on that recently. The conclusion is that home networking is absolutely exploding because of Wi-Fi. After 10 years of almost nothing, it's (now) just going through the roof.

 

[MfA]

Anyone who actually uses the device will still put it in a cradle to load movies on it if it quarters transfer times. Wireless is nice ... but it is not what the usual mode of use will be. Joe average has seen enough wireless phones to understand the concept of a cradle.

 

[chaphack]

guys, those are just techie optimistion(haven we seen enough of those ), aint gonna be as easily justify in the practical realworld.

 

[London Geezer]

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optimistion(haven we seen enough of those )

neither have i... what exactly is it?

to be honest, portable players/video/whatever are REALLY growing on me, and this is just after buying a new mobile phone (GREAT little thing it is too, the Sony T610)...

 

[chaphack]

For instance techie optimists have predicted that broadband would go !boom! today, but it aint be booming. It be good, but not what they expected. Same thing with online gaming.

There be tons of tech hohohaha as always, but its just tech hohohaha seen from the eyes of tech dudes. Theorectical if you will.

Wait and see as to be expected IMHO.

 

[London Geezer]

*cringe*

 

[hey69]

For instance techie optimists have predicted that broadband would go !boom! today, but it aint be booming. It be good, but not what they expected. Same thing with online gaming.

There be tons of tech hohohaha as always, but its just tech hohohaha seen from the eyes of tech dudes. Theorectical if you will.

Wait and see as to be expected IMHO.

Chaphack, in wich country do you live?

I mean if broadband didn't boom over there , i don't know what will boom.
In belgium , there are over 1.5 milj broadband users on a total population of 10milj people!. We have 1 of the biggest broadband penetrations in the world. 99% of the country is covered by Adsl, and most probably Cable also.
Betatesting VDSL has already been started, 2004 will be the commercial rollaout of VDSL in belgium, delevering at start 12 mbyte/sec down, 2mbyte up
More and more public places have wireless internet connections. (hotspots)
Broadband will boom, and will continue to boom .
Depending where you live, it was already started, or just began or will start in the near future.

 

[notAFanB]

For instance techie optimists have predicted that broadband would go !boom! today, but it aint be booming. It be good, but not what they expected. Same thing with online gaming.

the UK is Booming quite nicely thanks. the growth of both affordable *and* high end is progressing quite nicely. the less saaid about asia the better.

online gaming still suffers from the legacy of the www, which isn't static.

 

[London Geezer]

yeah Broadband penetration has been slower than expected, even here in the UK, but with Goverment backing it will get better.
the frustration for Sony and Microsoft is that they have to wait for the infrastructure to be able to handle their plans.
this has caused delays in online gaming (at least the way they wanted it)...
i'm pretty sure GT4 will be delayed for the exact same reason, there are already hints on issues with GT4 and online access...

 

[notAFanB]

yeah Broadband penetration has been slower than expected, even here in the UK, but with Goverment backing it will get better.

thank god, honestly priot to BT releasing their strangle hold on exchanges nododied had even heard of broadband! now that everyone (read anyone whom does IT for a living) who wanted broadband has it, the problem is selling to the market which is indiffernt to internet access of any type.

I expect some of the more recent 'cripple' BB packages may make some headroom here.

 

[London Geezer]

yeah Broadband penetration has been slower than expected, even here in the UK, but with Goverment backing it will get better.

thank god, honestly priot to BT releasing their strangle hold on exchanges nododied had even heard of broadband! now that everyone (read anyone whom does IT for a living) who wanted broadband has it, the problem is selling to the market which is indiffernt to internet access of any type.

I expect some of the more recent 'cripple' BB packages may make some headroom here.

yeah, nowadays BB is cheaper than dial-up was at its peak....

but u know how it is, we ALWAYS get things late here. after the rest of europe sometimes.

mobile phone technology for example exploded quite late here in the UK, compared to Italy (from personal experience)... in Italy EVERYONE had a mobile long before everyone had one in the UK.
3G phones came out in Italy before they did in the UK...

it's things like these that make me wonder... why did i move here???