Sony: "Nintendo DS is for kiddies!"

[London Geezer]

Depends on what you mean by most people...

Obviously not 7 year old's.
But aaaaaaaanyway, back to topic.

 

[Nick Spolec]

I'm going to put on my wizard's cap and predict the Nintendo DS' library of games.

Let's see..

Mario..
Zelda..
Donkey Kong..

And bingo. Classic Nintendo crap.

Nintendo, as a developer, pails in comparision to someone like Sega, who with their systems at least TRIED to come up with new ideas. Which is why I don't really like Nintendo.

 

[Teasy]

His comments certainly don't offend me, I just see them for what they are. Which is comments made to attempt to downplay the DS and also to play up to the image Sony are trying to create for the PSP (as the cool adult handheld). Anyone who thinks otherwise is smoking huge quantities of class A drugs. rabidrabbit I'm looking at you man, drop that crack pipe and put your hands up (j/k)

Also rabidrabbit, on a serious note, just get off the whole kiddie argument. Its a silly and utterly futile argument. Its one of those arguments that just has too many different angles. Just as an example of that I'll quote your own comment from earlier in this thread:

But will they be happy long enough with something kiddy like picto chat, wario ware? I think not, they're just too simplistic for 18 year old.

Maybe they're not too simplistic for a 30 year old, but 18 year old is more conserned by his "adult image" than a mature 30 year old

So in other words people who want to be an adult because its cool may have a problem. But real adults won't... which sort of shoots your own argument to peices.

 

[DSN2K]

Nokia said the same thing.....

Sony are worried, fact is Nintendo's inferior piece of hardware is going to outsell it by a good amount.

Nintendo have won this "war" already what its worth.

 

[London Geezer]

Nintendo have won this "war" already what its worth.

Ok, so when someone says the Sony will probably win the next gen of console with the PS3 based on their past success, they're slated for being fanboys, BUT then the same people go about raving how Nintendo will surely win the next generation of handhelds, based on the same arguments!
Not very coherent is it...

 

[PC-Engine]

Nintendo, as a developer, pails in comparision to someone like Sega, who with their systems at least TRIED to come up with new ideas. Which is why I don't really like Nintendo.

Well I like SEGA as a software developer better than Nintendo too, unfortunately SEGA has made too many bad business decisions that has tarnished it's name which prevented it from being able to compete for consumer dollars. If SEGA made some great games for NDS, I'd be all over it too.

 

[Readykilowatt]

I'm going to put on my wizard's cap and predict the Nintendo DS' library of games.

Let's see..

Mario..
Zelda..
Donkey Kong..

And bingo. Classic Nintendo crap.

Nintendo, as a developer, pails in comparision to someone like Sega, who with their systems at least TRIED to come up with new ideas. Which is why I don't really like Nintendo.

I know that it is just his opinion, but I literally laughed until I cried when I read this post.

 

[thop]

I have some news for SONY: kids are the major video game buying force (their parents). I wonder who bought the 70 Mio. Pokemon games over the last few years, surely SONY doesn't think all of them were bought by 30 year olds?

Of course not many parents are gonna buy their kids a 300$ toy, so it seems they have no choice anyway.

Also what SONY seems to forget: Nintendo is getting in those little kids brains for life. Most Nintendo fans nowadays will buy Mario and Zelda forever, simply because of all the great childhood memories. In 5-10 years there will be a huge 20 year olds Pokemon buying force on this planet

Nintendo, as a developer, pails in comparision to someone like Sega, who with their systems at least TRIED to come up with new ideas. Which is why I don't really like Nintendo.

Now here is a bitter SEGA fan if i ever saw one :?

 

[London Geezer]

I have some news for SONY: kids are the major video game buying force. I wonder who bought the 70 Mio. Pokemon games over the last few years, surely SONY doesn't think all of them were bought by 30 year olds?

Of course not many parents are gonna buy their kids a 300$ toy, so it seems they have no choice anyway.

Also what SONY seems to forget: Nintendo is getting in those little kids brains for life. Most Nintendo fans nowadays will buy Mario and Zelda forever, simply because of all the great childhood memories. In 5-10 years there will be a huge 20 year olds Pokemon buying force on this planet

Sure, but many will also get sick of a bloody plumber and the same adventure game called Zelda. It is the 9 billionth time they're using those franchises at the end of the day...
If everyone were still buying things because of their "childhood memories", then Michael Jackson would still be successfull. And we'd all be wearing baggy yellow and blue checkered trousers and baggy red and green vertical striped shirts, and style our hair like in the 80's.... God i feel sick now...

 

[Readykilowatt]

If it's a PSP, they will, just to show off. But maybe that's just me putting PSP in the same "caste" as the iPod.

You do know how big the porn industry is, right? Do you think that a shiny new portable and affordable Panasonic or Sony Blu-Ray movie player is going to make people suddenly begin to watch porn in public? We will soon see if these so-called "adults" are going to be playing video games in public as well. Remember that it is Sony who is implying that playing with a PSP is the "mature" thing to do.

 

[thop]

If everyone were still buying things because of their "childhood memories", then Michael Jackson would still be successfull. And we'd all be wearing baggy yellow and blue checkered trousers and baggy red and green vertical striped shirts, and style our hair like in the 80's.... God i feel sick now...

I thought the 80s are back big time? :? I certainly see a lot of 80s haircuts and 80s music nostalgia.

Anyway Nintendo keeps refreshing those memories from time so it's not just one big childhood memory, but more like a constant in a gamers life. And by the time people get sick of them they generally get sick of gaming in general anyway.

 

[London Geezer]

If it's a PSP, they will, just to show off. But maybe that's just me putting PSP in the same "caste" as the iPod.

You do know how big the porn industry is, right? Do you think that a shiny new portable and affordable Panasonic or Sony Blu-Ray movie player is going to make people suddenly begin to watch porn in public? We will soon see if these so-called "adults" are going to be playing video games in public as well. Remember that it is Sony who is implying that playing with a PSP is the "mature" thing to do.

Huh?? Am i the only one who failed to see the "logical" connection between the handheld market and the porn industry?

 

[PC-Engine]

The new Zelda for GCN looks to be quite awesome regardless if it's an old franchise or not. I think it depends a lot on execution though. Some people didn't like the Celda route for example. A brand new franchise without any substance would flop like wet napkin anyway.

 

[Teasy]

Lets put that wizards cap to the test Nick. For Nintendo DS's game library you predicted:

Mario
Zelda
Donkey Kong

I made a little list of some of the already announced DS games to compare your predictions to :

Viewtiful Joe DS
GoldenEye
Need For Speed Underground
Pro Evolution Soccer
Castlevania
Nanostray
Super Mario 64x4
Metroid Prime Hunters
Ridge Racer
Spiderman 2
Madden NFL
Mario Cart DS
Tiger Woods PGA Tour
Urbz: Sims in the city
Animal Forest DS
Bomberman
Rayman
Asphalt GT
Final Fantasy: CC
Super Mario Brothers DS
Advance Wars
Final Fantasy III
Crush
Dragon Ball Z
Spectral Force
Yu-Gi-Oh: Nightmare
Nintendogs
Moonlight Fables
Harvest Moon DS
Legend of the River Kings
Mr Driller
Air Assualt 2
Organiser Plus (ooh organiser software didn't see that before..)
Project Rub
Secret of Mana
Dragon Quest Monsters
Puzzle Bobble
SpongBob
Monster Rancher
Team Ninja (secret title)
Naruto
Zoids
Robots
WWE game from Yukes
Sonic DS
Ultimate Brain Games
Ultimate Pocket Games
Plus over 700 GBA games already released.

Well you did get two right, out of around 50 (or 750 if you include all the GBA games)..

Nintendo, as a developer, pails in comparision to someone like Sega

Nintendo have 21 games in the top 100 best games at GameRankings and Sega have 7 (and I was being generous as I could have just looked at the top 20 with 7 Nintendo games and 1 Sega game...). I'm a Sega fan as well, I owned a Master System, Mega Drive, GameGear, Saturn and Dreamcast. But Nintendo clearly produce the more consistantly excellent games.

 

[Readykilowatt]

Huh?? Am i the only one who failed to see the "logical" connection between the handheld market and the porn industry?

OK, follow me now: The porn industry = very popular. The porn industry = for teh mature!!!111! Now, adults (and some kids) watch porn at home but most of them will not do so on a portable movie player in public (even with the headphones on).

Sony says: The PS2 = popular. The PS2 = for teh mature!!1!11! Now, many adults do play video games at home, but most will, IMO, not play them in public (and I think that Sony knows this).

Remember when the president of Sony said that he didn't see the PSP as being a portable machine and instead sees it being played in the home? Remember when Kaz showed the PSP at E3 and no one applauded? There was like a collective "meh" in the crowd. Good luck Sony.

 

[London Geezer]

Remember when the president of Sony said that he didn't see the PSP as being a portable machine and instead sees it being played in the home? Remember when Kaz showed the PSP at E3 and no one applauded? There was like a collective "meh" in the crowd. Good luck Sony.

Actually, no i don't, but if you say so... I ain't buying the thing anyway so it's not like i care. But for argument's sake, the porn-consoles argument thing is not logical. Or maybe it is in your brain but not mine.

 

[Readykilowatt]

Actually, no i don't, but if you say so... I ain't buying the thing anyway so it's not like i care.

Oops, I made a mistake, it was not the president of Sony that said that, it was Ken Kutaragi that said this, "The place I'm imagining for use of the system [PSP] is the home. People don't play games while walking around".

But for argument's sake, the porn-consoles argument thing is not logical. Or maybe it is in your brain but not mine.

Then let's agree to disagree.

 

[London Geezer]

"People don't play games while walking around".

What would be fundamentally wrong with that statement? Do you play games while walking? Gameboy is played mainly sitting down. On a train, bus, plane, and mainly at home. All the thousands of hours i've put into my GB gaming were at home. Attached to the power supply thing, cause i got bored of having to change the batteries every so often. I was a kid afterall.

 

[rabidrabbit]

...
PictoChat is not a game It's a communication app aka an Instant Messenger. How many people over 18 use IM?

Instant messaging by SMS or web is a little different than "instant messaging" by Nintendo DS.
You don't need to gather the people you want to message together around the WiFi's reach for starters
Can you imagine a 20 year old calling his mates to come to the local shopping mall so they can "picto chat" together

 

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