Son of a ------

[K.I.L.E.R]

I just bought VX924 LCD.
Haven't installed the drivers(using Plug n Play Windows default).

Fghjfuhg sharp as hell.
I just watched videos played quake and HOMM4 and stuff

SHARP AS HELL

NO GFHOSTING

I didnt even install drivers and its perfect

far better than any CRT iv eva seen

anyone who complains about colours(different shades of gray) or ghosting is an idiot fair and simple or are just ignorant of the fact that my monitor exists.

Text and game sin general are way sharper than anything I've ever seen.
Amazing.

Best spent $662 in my entire life.

I just installed the drivers.
Speechless.

I cna't even describe how well this monitor highlights shades.
My previous CRT never displayed shades like this.

I've been going through my porn collection and it looks way different than before.
It looks far more pleasing.

This is what HDR should have been.

 

[Bahadir]

I just bought VX924 LCD.

Is it a Viewsonic? This one?
http://www.viewsonic.com.au/products/productspecs.php?id=211

NO GFHOSTING.

try moving your mouse pointer over the desktop. still no ghosting? try moving it horizontally across the caption bar of the windows dialog.

anyone who complains about colours(different shades of gray) or ghosting is an idiot fair and simple or are just ignorant of the fact that my monitor exists.

You might find that your LCD is a 6-bit panel. (I might be wrong though) try running photoshop and try to display different shades of red at the same time and see if there are any banding.

 

[WhiningKhan]

NO GFHOSTING

Err, no girlfriend hosting?

I've been going through my porn collection and it looks way different than before.
It looks far more pleasing.

Ah, that explains it.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

My mouse moves instantly across the desktop.
No different than my CRT.

I used GIMP and drawn large circular lines with gradients.
Amazing colour perception.
This monitor is very smart.

I love it.

 

[Moloch]

hehe.
It sounds like you're getting a little too excited their sparky.
lcds<crts.
Get a decent CRT and compare an LCD side by side and if you still like the LCD better

Why I dont have an lcd, nor dream about owning one.
-Ghosting (you have bad eyes if you cant see it) and if you believe the 3ms claim you're crazy
-Contrast ratio- black levels on current tfts leave alot to be desired(see above if you dont agree)
-Gamma ramps are most I've seen aren't very linear at all.
-Alot of lcds have banding issues, even the famed 24" dell.
-Resolution- a 19" TFT typically has a 1280x1024 res.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

Either way it looks far better(in games and movies as well as desktop) than anything my CRT has ever shown me.

I'm glad I threw out my CRT. I never want to see one of those again.

 

[Moloch]

What crt did you have?
Btw.. here's what tom said about your lcd.
Direct link to pixel response test-
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/20050602/viewsonic-05.html
Anyway, crts are currently a more exact display technology.
You can admit crts are a superior technology but still use lcds for their size, but to dismiss crts simply because you owned an inferior crt is narrow minded and perhaps you're trying to get on the high horse many lcd owners get on.
The newer= better train of thought it was I'm referring to.
A lot of people see new technology and automatically assume it's better because they're blissfully ignorant :smile:

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

It looks better than my CRT or any other CRT I've ever seen.
I've seen CRTs in action that cost around the same as my LCD.
They didn't look better.

I'm also not paying over $10,000 for a CRT that may look better by a small margin than an LCD.

 

[Moloch]

It looks better than my CRT or any other CRT I've ever seen.
I've seen CRTs in action that cost around the same as my LCD.
They didn't look better.

In what way to you think it looks better?
I will say this- lcds are bright and sharp and have excellent geometry, but beyond that they're not as good.
You may prefer the bright look, but that also cuts into the abilty to produce deep blacks.
Skip though that review- look at the high color page- you can see how it's ever so lightly off.
In response to your edit, you can get a far better crt for the money of an lcd of equal viewable size.
Maybe you dont think it's better, but tests sure think so.
i.e contrast ratio, gamma curve, color reproduction.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

Quake looked really good.
Everything appears very sharp.

Black looks like black, some more than others.
I don't get what the issue is.

 

[Moloch]

Quake looked really good.
Everything appears very sharp.

Black looks like black, some more than others.
I don't get what the issue is.

Do you have your pc in a dark room?
And you didnt pay for the lcd, your mother did.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

Currently I have my windows open and my shutters up.

"And you didnt pay for the lcd, your mother did."
Duh! That's what I meant.

Just finished playing Half Life 2.
MADDD!

 

[Moloch]

Currently I have my windows open and my shutters up.

"And you didnt pay for the lcd, your mother did."
Duh! That's what I meant.

Just finished playing Half Life 2.
MADDD!

Try getting the room as dark and possible.
Then play some doom 3 or watch a dark scene from a dvd.
If you cant see then the black levels aren't as good as a decent crt, you are hopeless

 

[DudeMiester]

Yeah in the dark LCDs are a greyish colour, because the blacklight bleeds through. However, some new LCD technologies fix that giving you perfect blacks by modulating the backlight itself. But they've all been discussed on this forum.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

Where was I during that discussion?
Why don't you guys ever inform me of anything?
Why do I have to find things out myself?

 

[Moloch]

Where was I during that discussion?
Why don't you guys ever inform me of anything?
Why do I have to find things out myself?

I believe it was the discussion started by nite hawk about ati's gamma correct fsaa.
It was discovered that lcds's gamma curve makes it so ati's gamma aa doesn't look nearly as good as on a crt.

 

[K.I.L.E.R]

I didn't know that.
It looked no different to me.

 

[Nite_Hawk]

Some of the discussion about LED backlights to fix the contrast issues are here:

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24163&highlight=backlight
and
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16262&highlight=backlight

The ATI AA issue is a bit of a seperate problem. It wasn't a gamma problem at all actually, it was that with a low number of samples and a thin high contrast edge (the wire), too many samples were alternating between the black line and the white background as you moved along the line. You can see this if you actually look at the RGB pixel values as you walk along the line. Some areas of the line are nearly true black, while others are around 60% white.

Refer to this post here:

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpost.php?p=592350&postcount=96

Nite_Hawk

 

[Diplo]

From ViewSonic's own mouth: http://www.viewsonic.com/monitoruniversity/crt.htm

Accurate color
CRTs can provide richer color in a fuller spectrum than most LCDs. In general, graphic artists prefer CRT monitors because they show truer colors and greater nuance-particularly useful for preparing files for printing and for using photo applications such as Adobe® Photoshop®.

Response time
CRTs may respond more quickly than some LCDs to videos and fast-action games. For some LCDs, pixels respond to voltage (being turned "on" and "off") more slowly than the time it takes for an electron beam to redraw a CRT screen. As a result, fast-moving images can sometimes leave visible trails, called ghosting, or appear blurry on an LCD. ViewSonic ClearMotionTM LCDs have virtually eliminated response-time issues.

Viewing angle
CRT monitors display good brightness and color from a wide viewing angle. Some LCDs, however, look their best when you are directly in front of them, because of the way light passes through liquid crystals in the screen. Keep in mind that LCD technology is rapidly developing, increasing LCD viewing angels, so this CRT advantage doesn't hold true in every case. Check the specs of the monitors you're considering. ViewSonic XtremeView® LCDs have superior viewing angles.

Multiple resolutions
CRT monitors can switch between multiple resolution settings without a significant loss in sharpness. If you need to change your monitor resolution frequently, you may be better off with CRT technology.

 

[Moloch]

From ViewSonic's own mouth: http://www.viewsonic.com/monitoruniversity/crt.htm

heh