Some Nintendo What Ifs

Using Teasy's own #s, it would only take an attach rate of 1.8 titles over the lifespan of the console generation (5 years?) to be more profitable. (180 Million titles need to be sold total, 100 Million consoles)

That's pretty much the same profit really, I'd say 225 million sold to be safe :), and that's only for a small increase in profit. Also my numbers were only for the first 4 years.
 
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*reading Teasy's previous posts here*

Teasy you stole my numbers! I made a post pretty much like yours last week!

You number stealerest!
 
As a matter of fact, when Nintendo had to start using a bit of strategy (when competition toughened up and Sega and then later on Sony came out), they struggled. And they still are, although many will shield themselves behind the "Ninty are making a profit!".

A company making profits is hardly merely an excuse to hide behind though, after all its the whole point of being in business.. If Nintendo were selling loads of consoles (as they could if they decided to subsidise everything heavily) and losing money hand over fist I certainly wouldn't be backing them long term. If I did by saying "well they're going down the drain financially but look at all the marketshare" then that really would be an excuse.
 
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Teasy said:
A company making profits is hardly merely an excuse to hide behind though, after all its the whole point of being in business.. If Nintendo were selling loads of consoles (as they could if they decided to subsidise everything heavily) and losing money hand over fist I certainly wouldn't be backing them long term. If I did by saying "well they're going down the drain financially but look at all the marketshare" then that really would be an excuse.

Profits have to be balanced with marketshare though.

If Nintendo only made 1 console, but sold it for $5 more than it cost to make it, it would be a profit. Even Nintendo admits that they are on the unfavorable side of that balacing act right now, having repeatedly blamed the Gamecube for lower than expected earnings over the past 4 years. They are already at the point where a further drop in marketshare will mean reduced profits in the long term.

And if supporting a console means their long term profits will be reduced, you have to begin to question if the bean counters at Nintendo accept that loss of profits or stop competing in what is for them an unprofitable market.
 
Teasy said:
Yet you didn't realise what I meant when I mentioned the exact same numbers :LOL: You so crazy :D

Errr ok u win.

I have a new What If.


What if Nintendo turns to porn?

Super Mario Bros and Princess Whatever would take a whole new meaning....
 
Teasy said:
Wasn't trying to win anything, but now that I have what did I win? It isn't anything gay is it?
Yes. It's some Nintendo porn that LB's developing. Bet you're sorry you got involved now!
 
Teasy said:
Wasn't trying to win anything, but now that I have what did I win? It isn't anything gay is it?

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You win a whole troll all for you. To follow you around and bore you to death with Sony's FLOPS figures and MS's profit figures. And tell u that Nintendo are teh doomed.
 
Teasy said:
I think you'll find that my math is fine, you simply can't read properly :D

I didn't say that there are 110 million XBox/PS2 owners. I said there are 110 million total current gen console owners. 90 million PS2's, 20 million XBox's and 20 million GC's owned by around 110 million gamers.

91.62 million PS2s as of July 26th.
22 million Xboxes as of June 30th.
18.6 million Gamecubes as of June 24th.

Total = 132.22 Million

Of course, that's several months old. I don't know how much MS has added, but Sony averages about a million a month.

I need evidence to disprove your guess work do I? :LOL: Tell me, how can I give you evidence on something that hasn't happened yet?

So you are saying that market trends have not reversed, correct? In that case, it would be wrong to assume that they will when you have absolutely no supporting evidence, correct?

You want to talk about Nintendo and console profits, well all we have is GC for that, everything else is nothing but conjecture.
 
london-boy said:
:oops:
You win a whole troll all for you. To follow you around and bore you to death with Sony's FLOPS figures and MS's profit figures. And tell u that Nintendo are teh doomed.


:LOL: This is the funniest thread this week. Keep it up guys.
 
I wish I could edit. :devilish:

I forgot to say that you are still counting every single GCN owner as an Xbox or PS2 owner as well. There is no way that 100% of the GCN userbase owns one of the other current-gen consoles.
 
Powderkeg said:
I wish I could edit. :devilish:

I forgot to say that you are still counting every single GCN owner as an Xbox or PS2 owner as well. There is no way that 100% of the GCN userbase owns one of the other current-gen consoles.

I don't think he said that.

Personally I think that *many people* own 2 consoles. Or have owned, which is the same thing cause it all shows in sales figures anyway, whether you still have the console or not.
 
london-boy said:
I don't think he said that.

Personally I think that *many people* own 2 consoles. Or have owned, which is the same thing cause it all shows in sales figures anyway, whether you still have the console or not.

Yeah, it's back to the non-editing problem. It's early, I haven't had enough caffine, and ddin't read his response correctly. That last post of mine was just wrong.

But my point stands. There are enough non-Nintendo system owners out there that even if just a fraction of them bought a Nintendo game, it would turn a profit for them, and a big-name game like Zelda could probably rake in GTA type sales figures.
 
I'll reply to the rest of your comments later Powderkeg:

I forgot to say that you are still counting every single GCN owner as an Xbox or PS2 owner as well. There is no way that 100% of the GCN userbase owns one of the other current-gen consoles.

I'm not, I'm assuming that there are 110 million total current gen console owners owning around 130 million consoles between them. With around 20 million of those PS2 owners owning a GC and/or XBox (and another 20 million owning only a XBox or GC).
 
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Powderkeg said:
Yeah, it's back to the non-editing problem. It's early, I haven't had enough caffine, and ddin't read his response correctly. That last post of mine was just wrong.

System is there so newbies (or naughty boys) learn to think before posting!



;)
 
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