Sickening

Well
I usually consider myself rather left leaning, but I think that Faith Fippinger is an idiot. I think any person who went to Iraq as a human sheild is an idiot. This is because saddam was obviously willing to use his own populace as sheilds, and anyone who was willing to give their life to stop the illegal war as they say, or keep saddam in power as I say is rather clueless... sorry about that, but all these "do gooders" just made me feel weak to watch.

Why didn't they go as human sheilds to protect people in Liberia???? B/c if they did they would have been killed, they only dare stand up to people like the US/UK b/c we actually have some compassion and won't just kill them and be done w/ it.
 
Sxotty said:
Well
I usually consider myself rather left leaning, but I think that Faith Fippinger is an idiot. I think any person who went to Iraq as a human sheild is an idiot. This is because saddam was obviously willing to use his own populace as sheilds, and anyone who was willing to give their life to stop the illegal war as they say, or keep saddam in power as I say is rather clueless... sorry about that, but all these "do gooders" just made me feel weak to watch.

Why didn't they go as human sheilds to protect people in Liberia???? B/c if they did they would have been killed, they only dare stand up to people like the US/UK b/c we actually have some compassion and won't just kill them and be done w/ it.

So that justifies trying to imprison her?
 
CosmoKramer said:
So that justifies trying to imprison her?

How are her actions, as a citizen, any less treasonous than what Aldrich Ames or the Walker's did? Both did everything within their ability to help an enemy of the state.

Of course she didn't have access to the same things the above men did, but helping an enemy of the state should remain blind to such things. Last time I checked, trying to kill your mother with a papercut is just as wrong as using an AK-47.
 
Hopefully this will discourage other human shield idiots from jumping like sheep off the cliff.

Granted they'll find a reason to prosecute her (in this case using the embargo laws), but the point is the same
 
Vince said:
How are her actions, as a citizen, any less treasonous than what Aldrich Ames or the Walker's did?

It takes a twisted deranged mind to equate trying to protect hospitals and water supplies with killing your mother.
 
CosmoKramer said:
It takes a twisted deranged mind to equate trying to protect hospitals and water supplies with killing your mother.

One man's Palestinian freedom-fighter is another's semtex carrying terrorist.

You play into this idealistic view that she was actually protecting the infastructure - I think if they wanted to bomb it they would have, 70 year old hippy be damned.

I see a woman who tried to use her life as a bargining chip in a disgusting practice of defending an enemy-of-the state's infastructure (hospital, dam, munitions factory: all are indifferent to me, who knew what was in any of them?) during a time of open hostility.

But thank's for the compliment socialist.
 
Vince said:
But thank's for the compliment socialist.

Hehe :)

Sorry to disturb your little labelling comfort-zone, but it is not a requirement to be a socialist to disagree with your nutty views.
 
yet you did not disagree, not that it matters, I might be a bit of a socialist myself, *better run away*

The way I see it any logical person should find themselves a mix of different philosophies b/c most have some kind of positive and negative.

If you feel really comfortable in any party I think you are either deluding yourself or have quit thinking.
 
Sxotty said:
yet you did not disagree,

I didn't? :?

The way I see it any logical person should find themselves a mix of different philosophies b/c most have some kind of positive and negative.

Sure.

If you feel really comfortable in any party I think you are either deluding yourself or have quit thinking.

Hmm...are you replying to the right thread? Seriously? Because I don't feel like I have to defend myself given the contents of this thread. I see no relevance at all.
 
Isnt Cosmo the guy who verbally attacked the forum, accusing us of being child beaters?
Lol....
 
CosmoKramer said:
micron said:
Isnt Cosmo the guy who verbally attacked the forum, accusing us of being child beaters?
Lol....

Lol :) Don't flatter yourself. I only call child beaters child beaters. Simple as that.

do you mind if i call this bullshit, bullshit? SHe is endangering the lives of our soldiers while defending an enemy who cares nothing for its populace. Sickening indeed Cosmo.
 
CosmoKramer said:
Lol :) Don't flatter yourself. I only call child beaters child beaters. Simple as that.

I don't know about that. I've never struck a child in my life and yet you labelled me a child beater.
 
John Reynolds said:
CosmoKramer said:
Lol :) Don't flatter yourself. I only call child beaters child beaters. Simple as that.

I don't know about that. I've never struck a child in my life and yet you labelled me a child beater.

Yet you said you find child beating (don't play the semantics game, spanking involves physically hitting a child, no?) a good form of child-rearing. Just own up to it.

Furthermore, since you recently became a father it must then only be a matter of time until you start. Or do you perhaps feel your child is special and only other kids need to be beaten?

Do you have an opinon on the topic of the thread?
 
Spanking a child is somehow equitable with using a child as a punching bag?

Quick! We need to pull all medicines off the market since they can be harmful when taken in obscene quantities! And food too! Yes, definitely food!

I still can't decide what's worse--a fundamentalist or a bleeding heart liberal.

Now, for the actual thread...

Supporters argue that she was simply exercising her right to freedom of travel and speech and accuse the Bush administration of trying to make an example of her.
Newsflash--see those signs that say "Government Property: Restricted Area" or something along those lines? See, walking on those lands without permission is not exercising freedom of speech.

There is no right to leave the US freely. It's not in the Constitution. To say otherwise is to deny the government any control over what you can or cannot do whenever you have some sort of "cause." I can be anti-abortion, but if I go and kill a doctor who performs abortions, it's not free speech. Man oh man.

And sorry, peaceably petitioning the government isn't "travelling to a nation that the US has embargoed for over a decade and protecting the infrastructure of a tyrannical dictator." I'm about as anti-war as you can get, but you can actually protest here. Sure, it won't do crap unless the war drags on for eight years or more, but sorry, that's life. Yargh.
 
Talk about weird. Id have expected the prosecution under some traitor law and the whole US contingent not just this one lady... and not for economic reasons...

She should come to Canada while she still can... It was her right to go there and as the gov said it was her risk. To prosecute is a childish act the other western countries arent contemplating on their own citizens...
 
Well, what exactly did she do out there? If, as the article states, all she did was:

For three months she travelled around Iraq, guarding oil refineries, teaching in schools and working in hospitals.

Then why bother? "Guarding Oil Refineries" - well, I doubt that these were targetted anyway. The last thing the military wanted to do was damage the oil infrastructure whilst 'freeing the Iraqi people'. Teaching in schools and working in hospitals isn't usually considered treasonous activity either and surely these weren't targets.

Not very much shielding going on there for a self-professed human shield!
 
CosmoKramer said:
If you feel really comfortable in any party I think you are either deluding yourself or have quit thinking.

Hmm...are you replying to the right thread? Seriously? Because I don't feel like I have to defend myself given the contents of this thread. I see no relevance at all.

What in the world makes you think I am attacking you? Do you like to be attacked and get confused if you aren't? Sorry if I did not help you be the center of attention, but I am sure that this post will make you feel better lol.
 
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