Joe Gamer is obviously not going to be running Linux, ever.
Why would Valve fork Arch? Even Ubuntu isn't forked from Debian.
…because SteamOS is currently an Arch fork. The older version that ran on Steam Machines (and was publicly accessible and worked on general PCs) was a Debian fork.
“Goalpost moving” lol you guys realize that what I am suggesting exist already has existed for 10 years now right? Valve has published their fork of Debian for years, I’m just asking they make SteamOS Arch available for end users, preferably with some of their niceties built in. Nobody is talking about them releasing an idiot-proof version of Linux, this doesn’t exist (even on windows, which is cumbersome in its own right).
Please don't use that phrase. If you feel the argument is drifting, ask for clarification to reset it. The topic has clearly wandered off on a tangent and it needs to be brought back to whatever argument was being made in relation to Shader Compilation anyhow.
Well, the reason Linux and SteamOS was brought up is Valve basically fixed shader compilation stutter with Fossilize, games running in Proton crowdsource compiled Vulkan shaders.
Fossilize is what Valve created to collect GPU agnostic Vulkan PSO blobs and basically redistribute them to be pre-compiled on the users PC. It works on any Linux distro AND Windows already.. it's integrated directly into Steam.
Someone else answered most of this but the gist of the debate is if Microsoft should add this functionality natively to DX12.
DXVK is available for Windows
Yea, but it's not integrated into Windows nor Steam.
I also think it can cause a ban in games with certain anti cheats so it’s not a universal solution. A great product particularly for old games though.
Well.... Intel integrated DXVK to their Windows Arc drivers, NVIDIA is using DXVK in RTX Remix etc.
I wonder if some day Nvidia and AMD also adopt a DX(9-11) Vulkan translation layer in their drivers by default? Sure, Intel is doing it out of necessity for compatibility, performance and stability... but it could be done by the other IHVs as well, which would be great because if they all supported it officially in drivers, DirectX games on Steam could also utilize Fossilize and pre-compile shaders.
Intel has native DX9 driver too, it's game by game basis which is used
Is the reason for that simply because some games still performed better under DX9 compared DXVK? Or is it just too hard to support everything fully? I expect AMD and Nvidia could do a better job than Intel.. they have far more experience writing drivers for all these APIs.. I could be wrong though.
